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Topic: 4/16: Ken Willoughby presents: Edgar Mitchell
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StarDome
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posted 03-06-2010 02:50 PM
   
How many of you are attending the dinner on Thursday? |
AstroAutos
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posted 03-12-2010 02:05 PM
Just to let you guys know that I unfortunately am not able to attend this event anymore.Was so looking forward to meeting you guys again and seeing Captain Mitchell but we are in early stages of planning a family holiday to Florida in late July/early August (possibly to coincide with STS-134) so I have to save up! Hope you all enjoy it and I 'll see you at Autographica! |
spaceman
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posted 03-14-2010 07:39 AM
Andy, Bryar and I will be attending the dinner. We are so busy at work at the moment will be glad of the rest. Have booked Thursday afternoon and all day Friday off. Looking forward to the event. |
Steve Procter
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posted 03-14-2010 07:53 AM
Nick, I haven't got together with anything to be signed as yet. In case I don't I assume you'll have some stuff on your stand? |
spaceman
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posted 03-14-2010 03:30 PM
Steve, we'll be there with a range of Apollo items, Apollo 14 in particular. Look forward to seeing you all there. |
AstroAutos
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posted 03-25-2010 08:49 PM
I was hoping one of you could do me a really big favour at the lecture.I have a Mitchell WSS litho that I would love to have simply signed and personalized 'To Shane'. If anyone can find it in their heart to get this done for me I would be eternally grateful. I will of course pay for return shipping. It would mean so much guys, Regards, Shane. 
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Tykeanaut
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posted 03-26-2010 10:06 AM
As far as I'm aware we can only have one autograph per person. However, if you can clear it with Ken (Willooughby), let me know. |
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posted 03-26-2010 02:35 PM
As soon as I can confirm signing details I will let you all know. It was Jim Lovell who would only sign one item and that was his book.Details to follow. QUICK UPDATE: Signing WILL BE limited to one signature per person at this event. |
Tykeanaut
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posted 03-27-2010 07:03 AM
Shane - Perhaps the only answer is to send £30 and your photo to Ken? This may entitle you to an autograph? |
Steve Procter
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posted 03-27-2010 09:35 AM
Shane, to be honest I've had a number of items signed by Ed over the years. So in truth I don't really 'need' another. If you can't sort out an alternative I'm happy to use my signing 'slot' to get your litho done for you. |
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posted 03-27-2010 10:17 AM
You cant get any fairer than Steve's offer Shane.I wouldnt want to promise to get your Litho signed only to find I couldnt attend or get it done. |
AstroAutos
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posted 03-27-2010 08:29 PM
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You cant get any fairer than Steve's offer Shane.
I have been in contact with Steve offlist.A big thank you to him and all you guys for your wonderful help. |
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posted 04-08-2010 01:56 PM
Looking forward to seeing you all on Thursday and Friday next week. You are all in for a treat!! |
Tykeanaut
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posted 04-09-2010 04:35 AM
What is "Bloodhound SSC" all about? I can't open the attachment that Ken sent. |
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posted 04-09-2010 05:00 AM
Bloodhound is the Supersonic Car project that Richard Noble and Andy Green (not me) are behind to get a car to over 1000 MPH.My good friend and supporter Mr. Richard Phillips will be giving a presentation about the project with one of the team members on the evening before Ed's talk. The Bloodhound project was announced on 23 October 2008 at the Science Museum in London by Lord Drayson, the Minister of Science in the UK’s Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills, who in 2006 first proposed the project to Richard Noble and Andy Green; the two men who between them have held the land speed record for 25 years.Richard Noble, engineer, adventurer, and former wallpaper salesman, reached 633 mph (1,019 km/h) driving turbojet-powered car named Thrust 2 across the Nevada desert in 1983. In 1997, he headed the project to build the Thrust SSC, driven by Andy Green, an RAF pilot, at 763 mph (1,228 km/h), thereby breaking the sound barrier for the first time ever by a land vehicle. - BLOODHOUND SSC, Predecessor Thrust SSC
- Class: Land Speed Record vehicle
- Engine(s): Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofan
- Falcon HTP rocket
- MCT V12 800 bhp race engine (APU)
- Length: 12.8 m (42 ft)
- Width: 6.4 m (21 ft)
- Curb weight: 6,422 kg (14,160 lb) (fuelled)
BLOODHOUND SSC is a pencil-shaped car powered by a jet engine and a rocket that is designed to reach approximately 1,000 miles per hour (1,600 km/h). It is being developed and built with the intention of breaking the land speed record by the largest ever margin. If £10 M of sponsorship funding is obtained the construction should be complete by the end of 2011 and the record attempts may happen in late 2011 early 2012. I am also a corporate club member for Quicksilver WWSR which is the UK bid to get back the World Water Speed record. |
minipci
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posted 04-09-2010 05:44 AM
I believe that the Budweiser rocket car was the first to break the speed of sound back in 1979, but it wasn't able to qualify for the LSR. |
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posted 04-09-2010 08:24 AM
Thats great, shame they didn't get it recorded.  Bloodhound is a project that I was not familiar with until informed by Mr Phillips. |
icarkie
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posted 04-09-2010 11:46 AM
I missed it last weekend. I know the Bloodhound gang was at Santapod Raceway.See you at the show next Friday. By the way, for the website... check out bloodhoundssc.com.
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moorouge
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posted 04-13-2010 07:41 AM
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I am also a corporate club member for Quicksilver WWSR which is the UK bid to get back the World Water Speed record.
Nigel MacKnight, before Quicksilver, was also involved in a project to break the land speed record. I think that though initial designs were done, funding was not available so it came to nought. You might ask him about it when next you have contact with him. |
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posted 04-13-2010 02:18 PM
Will do. |
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posted 04-13-2010 04:18 PM
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Nigel MacKnight, before Quicksilver, was also involved in a project...You might ask him about it when next you have contact with him.
Does Nigel MacKnight still have an interest in space? Many of us still hold fond memories of his excellent (and much missed!) 'SpaceFlight News' magazine. |
ColinBurgess
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posted 04-13-2010 05:09 PM
Hmmmm... I also have memories of a certain Nigel Macknight taking that magazine off the shelves and encouraging us all to take out annual or bi-annual delivery subscriptions instead (expensive for us overseas readers) and then folding the magazine soon after without explanation or response, and of course we all did our money cold. So I personally hopes he stays well away from me and the spaceflight community. |
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posted 04-14-2010 06:47 AM
Nigel is a really nice guy actually and yes he is still interested in space. Colin, you are the only person I have heard speak ill of him. I am sure he had his reasons for folding the magzine, In fact I know he did as it was actually costing more to produce that he was gettign back in sales/subscritions for one, but he didnt have to explain himself to you nor anyone else. I will pass your comments on though and pass on your email address, you may even get the aswers you crave. |
ColinBurgess
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posted 04-14-2010 08:02 AM
Please don't take this personally, but I'd rather not hear from this person. He cajoled many of us into taking out subscriptions as his magazine would no longer be sold in stores, and I tried to support him by taking out a very expensive overseas subscription. After just two more issues it was goodbye "Spaceflight News" and goodbye money forever. And I know I'm not the only one to hold a grudge. |
moorouge
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posted 04-14-2010 10:05 AM
I think that you'll find that it was the publishers who pulled the plug on the magazine, not Nigel. |
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posted 04-14-2010 12:44 PM
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And I know I'm not the only one to hold a grudge.
Colin, sorry to have touched such a raw nerve but you have to admit that in the late 1980s there really was only the British Interplanetary Society's 'Spaceflight' and 'Spaceflight News' available on the newsstand.Despite its messy demise, I still believe Spaceflight News was a great source of quick, up-to-date info before the Internet kicked off. There might not have been a Chapter Two of 'Footprints' without SFN.  |
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posted 04-14-2010 12:47 PM
And back to the reason of this thread... see you tomorrow and Friday with Ed.
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machbusterman
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posted 04-14-2010 02:46 PM
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I believe that the Budweiser rocket car was the first to break the speed of sound back in 1979, but it wasn't able to qualify for the LSR.
There's a LONG story about that particular subject. No independent authority sanctioned the performance, although United States Air Force radar tracked the vehicle and recorded the speed at 38 mph. This was obviously an error, and is generally considered to represent the movement of a truck in the vicinity. The report on the speed achieved was confused, but eventually a figure was produced nearly eight hours after the run. This figure was based on in-car accelerometer data, which were affected by vibration. These data were interpreted by the team as indicating a high degree of probability that the car exceeded the speed of sound at one point in its path by achieving a peak speed of 739.666 miles per hour, or Mach 1.01. These data, however, have never been publicly released, and one expert claimed that the vibration interference was so great that almost any speed could be claimed.Lets be frank and earnest and say the Budweiser car's "claimed" speed (one way speed measured over a 52 foot speed trap) should not be compared to the record set by the Thrust SSC team and Andy Green's Land Speed Record (which was a two way run within one hour through a measured mile and ratified by the USAC). More on the Budweiser rocket here. |
moorouge
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posted 04-15-2010 03:05 AM
Is Ed Mitchell in the country or will he be caught up in the air traffic chaos caused by the Iceland volcano? In other words - will this cause a cancellation of tomorrow's lecture? |
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posted 04-15-2010 04:05 AM
As I type this post Edgar Mitchell is in Atlanta; his flight was turned back mid-Atlantic because of the volcanic ash disruption.I believe calls are being made to Dr. Mitchell at this time to see how he wishes to proceed; coming over Friday, possibly having the dinner Saturday evening or perhaps rearranging everything for a future date; that is informed speculation at this time. The only thing we know for sure is that today's school events and this evening dinner have been cancelled. Andy or myself will post more as and when we get it. |
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posted 04-15-2010 04:50 AM
I rang Rick this morning to let him know the situation which he kindly posted.At the moment, As Rick states, Ed is in Atlanta, his flight was turned round this morning due to the ash event over the UK from the volcanic eruption in Iceland. All of this evening's planned events are now CANCELLED so the meal at Wentbridge Hotel will be NOT taking place. I have spoken to Dr. Mitchell's secretary twice this morning and we are currently awaiting news from the airline to see if they can in fact re-schedule his flights for return on Sunday. IF they can, then the plan is for Dr Mitchell to arrive tomorrow morning (Friday) and still do the evening talk that most people have booked. The meal is another issue, it depends whether people can in fact commit to come Saturday now instead of tonight (Thursday)and how many are able to attend, as to whether that will go ahead Saturday instead. Given this isn't actually my event, I am trying my best to inform you all as to the current situation. As I am updated/informed I will try to post here to keep you all in the loop. Not my job really, but if someone doesn't do it then no one else will! |
moorouge
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posted 04-15-2010 05:47 AM
I suppose that it's somewhat ironic that ice nearly stopped Ed's moon landing and ice might prevent his landing in the UK.A go/no go by midday tomorrow if possible for Friday night would be helpful so as to prevent unnecessary travel. |
Tykeanaut
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posted 04-15-2010 08:51 AM
Thanks Andy, I have now posted this information onto the Midlands Spaceflight Society forum as well as I know some people who use that are also hoping to attend.It's unfortunate and unbelievable the bad luck since moving school location! |
Tykeanaut
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posted 04-15-2010 09:00 AM
Latest from Ken, "Hopefully he will land at 6.15am tomorrow morning?" |
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posted 04-15-2010 09:07 AM
Latest from BBC News is that UK airspace will not open before 7.00am GMT tomorrow. I live in hope but cannot see any way for Dr Mitchell to make it to the UK tomorrow. |
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posted 04-15-2010 09:13 AM
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UK airspace will not open before 7.00am GMT tomorrow.
Think it was 6.00 GMT and 7.00 BST. |
Steve Procter
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posted 04-15-2010 09:20 AM
National Air Traffic Control Service website showing restrictions in place until 0700 UK local tomorrow. I expect some decision will have to be made as to what time a/c will be allowed to depart (from the USA) to land here after the restrictions are lifted.Sweaty palms time... |
moorouge
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posted 04-15-2010 09:28 AM
Latest news - a NATS review is due at 20.00 BST. One assumes that there will be more information as to when restrictions are to be lifted then. |
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posted 04-15-2010 09:42 AM
Okay, here goes. As stated the flight has fortunately been re-scheduled from Atlanta, however, given the current status of UK airspace and Volcanic state in Iceland we are still up in the air, so to speak. I have tried to log into my NOTAMS pages and it's struggling to load... so cant say any more on that.NATS suggested that "the restrictions were unlikely to be lifted after 0700, saying it was "very unlikely that the situation over England will improve in the foreseeable future." I am currently at the hotel, and can, to some extent relax and keep an eye on things... having already done my bit for the cause today at the local school and with the production company from London. My friend Richard drove all the way from Bristol to give his Bloodhound presentation today, he did that and has gone back home.. not a word of moaning or malice. One thing I don't like is that some people are blaming Ken for this! That's just not fair... Ken tries his best. Although he may not be the quickest at getting info out there, which is why I help him where I can, a more genuine man you will not find, he is as upset as we all are with the current situation. I will keep an eye on things on both sides of the pond and ring Cathy later to see whats going on over there. My worry is that it wont just be Ed's flight that wants access to our airspace at 6 or 7am as we predict. Wing and a prayer spring to mind, but fingers crossed it will work out one way or the other. Believe me it isn't for lack of trying but acts of god we cant predict! Will keep you posted. |
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posted 04-15-2010 09:45 AM
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I live in hope but cannot see any way for Dr Mitchell to make it to the UK tomorrow.
On a lighter note, you just don't want to spend the money sharing the hotel room with me.
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