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capejeffs
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posted 01-30-2005 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capejeffs   Click Here to Email capejeffs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See link posted in David's Time To Fly.
There has been NO other coverage of this event,
so this is specially for the CS family, if interested.

But please lets not forget today the one we MUST OWE thanks to, for America's (and the West's) very greatest achievements. That one who's been along, somehwere behind these nations from their foundation. SO THERE ARE FAR BETTER WORDS TO LOOK UP & LOOK INTO THIS MORNING. EVEN if its only briefly today, let us all try to look into those certain words from which unending hope come, the words encoded with the power to bring the new.

And some words about the fallen astronauts:
. . . . ' there is no one greater than one who lays their life down for their friends. '

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TITUSVILLE'S ANNUAL OBSERVANCE for the fallen was held yesterday at Sand Point Park's astronaut memorial area. Keynote speaker was KSC Director James Kennedy, event also attended by Bob Seik.

I DON'T RECALL THIS being there last year (but not positive).......A Columbia plaque, now installed, raised up a bit in the cement as you enter the memorial area. BOB SEIK was partly credited for the plaque yesterday.

REGARDING CHALLENGER, lost 19 years ago this past Friday, Kennedy said deputy administrator Fred Gregory "cried so deeply" on Thursday (during NASA's day of remembrance, mentioned on Robert's front page earlier). And Kennedy said that he was very proud of Gregory. He said Gregory, a former astronaut, so much had wanted to push the communication button after the Challenger explosion, to wish the crew "Godspeed," but he couldn't.

THE APOLLO TRAGEDY was 38 years ago Thursday. Though not giving many details, Kennedy, like Gregory, had a broken voice as he told of his father working at KSC during that tragedy. Around the time of the fire, he said, some were afraid Apollo would never fly again. But he recalled NASA engineer Aaron Cohen bringing in a plaque that read, "A ship is safe in the harbor, but ships weren't made for the harbor." He mentioned a relation of Roger Chaffee that currently works at KSC, and also mentioned the relations of Gus Grissom making their annual visit to pad 34 on Thursday.

LOST ABOARD COLUMBIA 2 YEARS AGO this coming Tuesday, among the seven, Kennedy mentioned Judy Clark. He told of Judy Clark's husband at the KSC memorial space mirror, who had just "lost so much of his life." Yet Mr Clark had stood there saying, "Are we going to be a space fearing nation or a space fairing nation?"

Sam Durrance, when leading the memorial the previous 2 years, had moments overcome with emotion, yet positive moments. Kennedy openly mentioned "our failures," speaking of NASA. But I believe even more than Durrance, Kennedy recounted successes, going all the way back to Pathfinder as the way maker for humans going to Mars, and mentioning the Discovery channel naming the ISS as the greatest engineering achievement in history. He mentioned life sciences work at NASA to help space food cultivation, saying that Lewis & Clark wouldn't have been able to bring enough food for their long journey, and we won't be able to in a Mars voyage.

HE SAID, "WE HAVE THE BEST E.T. ever to fly" from your shores (speaking to the local attendees). And said, "we will not fly a shuttle to the ISS unless a 2nd one can be ready..," (the ISS being all that's on the shuttle's manifest).


Kennedy said one issue the Columbia review board had brought up was a lack of vision toward the future. The President, he said, has given us the vision. Kennedy closed saying, "TO THE CREWS [OF THE FALLEN missions], you are gone....but we hope to make you proud of us."


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Two items WERE in FL Today [link]. Time To Fly FL Today item is best though.

Seeing a pure light, from the one who is behind what's pure and what's CLEAR shows there are times to just have hope. Today lets think about that powerful-enough-light that MUST be somewhere behind America. And behind all good hope.
http://SKYandTELESCOPE.com/mm_images/7756.jpg


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posted 01-30-2005 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Server7   Click Here to Email Server7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sitting here typing in Laurel's study, I still can't believe she and the crew are gone. Hail and farewell Columbia.

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Originally posted by capejeffs:
See link I posted in David's Time To Fly. No coverage I could see yet in Florida Today's web edition this Sunday morn, so I'm posting this for the CS family if interested.

But please lets not forget today the one we MUST OWE thanks to, for America's (and the West's) very greatest achievements. That one who's been along, somehwere behind these nations from their foundation. SO THERE ARE FAR BETTER WORDS TO LOOK UP & LOOK INTO THIS MORNING. EVEN if its only briefly today, let us all try to look into those certain words from which unending hope to do better come, the words encoded with the power to bring the new.

And some words about the fallen astronauts:
. . . . ' there is no one greater than one who lays their life down for their friends. '


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posted 01-30-2005 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capejeffs   Click Here to Email capejeffs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(i'm definitely not the greatest man of faith, more & more its my aim, because of knowing where the real truth, SOLID, UNCHANGEABLE, REDEEMING & HEALING truth is, truth that came down & walked for us, and that keeps patiently calling out our name for us to come deeper in) i know there are others at collectspace who have much greater faith. TOGETHER WE SEND OUR DEEPEST PRAYERS FOR THE CLARKS . . . FOR A MAN, AND A SON, WHO ARE SO VERY, VERY PRECIOUS (and who are a beautiful part of Laurel too). Through the enduring & the journey, as an 8 year old once said, "soon, and sooner" there will come a great reunion one day.

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posted 01-31-2005 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capejeffs   Click Here to Email capejeffs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woke up with a song playing in my mind, server7, I'll quote it loosely, don't have the exact lyrics, from a group called casting crowns. there are only a few groups that would actually write a song about truth.

'the voice of Truth, says do not be discouraged, I am by your side, The voice of Truth, says do not be afraid. out of all the voices calling out in me, I will choose to follow & believe the voice of Truth.' its good to know there are solid things to believe. and that we can look up. even as we remember.

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posted 01-31-2005 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Server7   Click Here to Email Server7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember the first day Laurel and Jon moved to Houston. Walked over and met Laurel (Jon was in Florida that day), took her around the cul-de-sac to meet the neighbors. We all just fell in love with her. So quick with a laugh, easy to warm up to, she made everyone feel so special. She just took life one day at a time. What an example for us to live by.

So many wonderful memories too numerous to mention here, though including walking the Armand Bayou Nature trail with the kids, the Saturday night dinners, barbecues with her favorite peach flavored wine with the screw top. Coming next door to invite us and the other neighbors outside to see the space station which would be circling over in a few minutes. It showed up right on schedule.

Most notable was her love for Jon and Iain. Those two were the center of her universe.

Jon and Iain moved recently, perhaps to help with the healing. We needed a bigger home, so we bought theirs. I didn't think much about it at the time, but have since noticed so many things Laurel left here that maybe were more apparent to them than initially was to us.

I look up above the desk here in her study, and see the wooden bird she attached to the end of the ceiling fan chain. She was crazy about birds and animals and nature. She always talked to Iain about how important bugs were to the circle of life. "The smallest creatures, Iain, she said, "are so important to the environment." He's had a deep respect and love for the smallest creatures ever since.

Maybe the foresty back yard was one reason she initially chose to move here. Just a guess.

Laurel left little ceramic animals all around in the back yard here. I looked yesterday behind a bush and there was one of her little porcelain rabbits. The trees she had bought from around the world and planted in the yard.

A truly great family that endured with the other crew families a devastating loss.

May we all be better for knowing how they touched our lives.

They're missed.

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posted 01-31-2005 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capejeffs   Click Here to Email capejeffs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you, Server . . . extremely special sharing . . . from an extremely special place, Connected to the sadness of the past. And to honoring it, as the highest dreams of the future are built. Will you be there for long? Good to know that you are there caring for it at this time. Peace & encouragement be with you in these next days. Please send all our prayers.

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posted 01-31-2005 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Server7   Click Here to Email Server7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, it is a reminder of a valued friendship. Hope to stay here 'til the kids are grown, at least a few more years.

And so sorry to hear of your loss (your brother). I missed it in the first read.
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A few years ago I was involved as a volunteer with the Australian International Space School, and I wrote a couple of letters to Laurel Clark on their behalf, which she kindly answered. When I was at KSC for the launch of STS-95 with John Glenn on board I happened to see Laurel walking around doing her astronaut PR thing and I walked up to her. I started saying, "Hello Dr. Clark, my name is Colin ..." and she cried out in joy, "You're my Aussie mate from the Space School!" and gave me a huge hug. I was quite overwhelmed to think that she would not only know who I was (she had no idea I would be there) but that she liked me enough to give me the old bear hug treatment! I have never, ever forgotten her for that one treasured memory.

Laurel and I corresponded by email a couple of times after that, and as I sit here tonight, on the eve of our latest space tragedy, her email address is still registered in my mailbox. But I can never bring myself to delete it; it sits there as a small but precious remnant of that all-too-brief friendship with a very wonderful, gracious, enthusiastic, caring and joyful person.

To Laurel and the crew of STS-107: Orta Recens Quam Pura Nites.

Recently risen, how brightly thou shine.

Colin

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posted 02-02-2005 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capejeffs   Click Here to Email capejeffs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very personal, specially written note with which to remember, Colin, so poignant, thank you.

And thanks, Server. Like your "handle," does your handle reflect on a philosophy of something you want to be a part of your life. Still visit with the Clark's much (i.e., yeaterday). And know how the little one is doing? Thanks so much, once again, Server7.

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Server7, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and the other families continually. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.

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posted 02-02-2005 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw Fred Gregory on NASA TV's replay. I have never seen an astronaut that way. Then again it has been 19 years and it was four of his classmates and friends. one thing I thought Dick Covey was CapCom for STS51-L durning the launch?

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Thanks Randy. People still drive by the house and just look.

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A few years ago, while I was writing my book on the life and legacy of Christa McAuliffe, we were invited to stay with Christa's mother Grace Corrigan after she and I had been corresponding for several years after the loss of the Challenger crew. As part of our New England vacation (which we loved) we stayed in Grace's home for five days, but I have to admit we both felt a little uneasy when we were first ushered through the door, as almost every wall is covered in hundreds of framed portraits, certificates and awards. I felt like we had walked into some sort of shrine, but Grace later put us right at ease after I'd ventured that she sure had a lot of things on her walls. "Shoot," she said, "I sure do. People just keep sending me all this stuff and it's either on the walls or stacked up somewhere." Grace is a real charmer, and a totally dedicated champion of the Challenger Education program. However it did feel weird - albeit in a curiously nice way - to be staying in the house that Christa grew up in, and as Server7 remarked about Laurel, to be surrounded by all the things she found familiar to her.

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Randy, OV, thanks.
Looking back, this board touches the heart. CAN'T THANK ROBERT ENOUGH, there is nothing like cS. And if YOU are a member of cS, you are part of a special group.

COLIN, thanks again sharing.
Sure got beyond the usual research interviews, in the McAuliffe-Legacy volume! Puts deepening, and goodness behind your book. Have to look it up again. But I just saw about your newer co-authored Fallen Astronauts: Heroes Who Died Reaching for the Moon volume, sounds like must reading as well.

OV 105 EITHER YOU'RE WELL STUDIED
OR HAVE GOOD ATTENTION to detail. I didn't really recall Fred being capcom on that tragic day either. I started doubting the notes about Fred. From James' talk. Should have something for us about this shortly, and will post it seperately.

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posted 02-12-2005 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk   Click Here to Email Dirk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Europe, we remember all fallen pilots with the following words :

They shall grow not old
As we that are left grow old
Age shall not weary them
Nor the years condemn
At the going down of the sun
And in the morning
We shall remember them

Maybe those words can also be used for the fallen astronauts.

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Thanks Dirk . . . has me thinking of some other prose, "the sun will rise with healing in it's wings & you will leap forth like a calf from the stall..," "my mercies are new every morning," "and I will wipe away every tear from their eyes," don't remember precisely where those are from, a tale about some overcomingly bright morning. But Dirk, thanks, the words for pilots in Europe are succinctly beautiful just the way they are and they certainly are for astronauts & others too.

Also if OV-105 IS AROUND, you might be the only one who saw Gregory's memorial talk. MSNBC has a clip of part of the talk online somewhere but I lost track of that & had a player problem. It was only ABOUT 4 MINUTES, was that all that Director Gregory spoke, at what point was the tide of emotion that you saw, and that J. Kennedy praised? We salute Director Gregory for the remembrance, for his service, and we wish the best for his future.

OV-105, here are comments from DIRECTOR GREGORY'S explanation
about the point you raised . . . http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum38/HTML/000119.html

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