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Rob Joyner
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posted 06-05-2004 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Joyner   Click Here to Email Rob Joyner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saw this online. He died Saturday at about 4PM, EST of pneumonia at age 93 and was the longest living US President.

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Part of my memory of President Reagan will always be his enthusiasm for the space program. He was a genuine fan.

Happy Trails, Mr. President.

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The speech he gave after the Challenger disaster "..touched the face of God" was truly one of the top speeches ever given by a US President. May God bless Ronlad Reagan and his family.
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I was in High School and college during his administration. I'll never forget where I was when I heard of the Challenger and I will never forget this great President. He came at a time when American needed him most.

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After the Challenger accident President Reagan comforted us all and more importantly showed genuine warmth and compassion for the families of the fallen astronauts. For that and many other reasons he was my favorite president. May God bless President Reagan and his family.

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I agree with Tahir, his speech after the Challenger accident was one of the best I ever heard from anybody.

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I agree. The speach was something special. I hated President bush's columbia speech. It felt like he was trying to match regans speech although no one will ever do that. I remember seeing his speech launching the teacher in space program. that was a great speech also. President and actor will be missed.

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He was a great President. I didn't agree with some of his domestic policies at times when he was President, but looking back he was definitely one of our best. Also this is somewhat of a blessing because now he is at peace and I can only imagine the difficulties Nancy and her family have had in the last 10 years. I understand that it is very difficult for the family of an Alzheimer's patient.

And something that some may not know: Nancy has always been a great lady to collectors. I remember I had a photo of the White House that I wanted President Reagan to sign in 1992/1993. Twice his secretaries wouldn't forward it to him. So I sent it to Nancy for her autograph, not mentioning anything about the President signing it. It came back with both of their hand-signed signatures in the same blue pen. She had given it to him to sign also.

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I'm proud to say that the coverage of the passing away of Pres. Reagan has been extensive here in the UK - front page news and leads on the TV. He had a unique relationship with the UK and with Gorbachev was responsible for bringing the Cold War to an end. A man of conviction, sincerity and optimism.
Sad to see him go, but in his own words since the terrible onset of Alzheimers he had "begun the journey that would take him into the sunset of his life". Farewell President Reagan.

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High Flight

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high unsurpassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.

Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
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President Reagan approved that Space Station project during the Mid 1980's which evolved into the ISS during the Clinton Administration. Gerald R. Ford is the only living former President to have reached the age of 90.

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Friends,
The greatest American President since FDR has passed. I never voted for this man as I was extremely liberal then and always voted Democrat yet I admired him. His policies, both overseas and at home, and his love of America started shifting my personal politics toward the right during the 80's. If someone today asks where on the political scale I stand, I always answer "Somewhere to the right of Reagan".

History will look kindly on this wonderful American and what he accomplished. Whether you agreed with his politics or not, you do have to agree that he was a great leader with a vision of what America should be and how to get there. Sadly all Presidents since he left office have not filled his giant shoes.

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A few articles about Reagan's space legacy:

Spaceflight Now: President Reagan dies

Florida Today: With acts and in words, Reagan advanced space

Space Review: Ronald Reaganís space policy legacy

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For those who have never read or heard Reagan's Challenger address here it is.

White House, Washington
January 28, 1986
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd planned to speak to you tonight to report on the state of the Union, but the events of earlier today have led me to change those plans. Today is a day for mourning and remembering. Nancy and I are pained to the core by the tragedy of the shuttle Challenger. We know we share this pain with all of the people of our country. This is truly a national loss.

Nineteen years ago, almost to the day, we lost three astronauts in a terrible accident on the ground. But we've never lost an astronaut in flight; we've never had a tragedy like this. And perhaps we've forgotten the courage it took for the crew of the shuttle. But they, the Challenger Seven, were aware of the dangers, overcame them and did their jobs brilliantly. We mourn seven heroes: Michael Smith, Dick Scobee, Judith Resnik, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Gregory Jarvis, and Christa McAuliffe. We mourn their loss as a nation together.

[To] the families of the seven: we cannot bear, as you do, the full impact of this tragedy. But we feel the loss, and we're thinking about you so very much. Your loved ones were daring and brave, and they had that special grace, that special spirit that says, "Give me a challenge, and I'll meet it with joy." They had a hunger to explore the universe and discover its truths. They wished to serve, and they did. They served all of us. We've grown used to wonders in this century. It's hard to dazzle us. But for 25 years the United States space program has been doing just that. We've grown used to the idea of space, and perhaps we forget that we've only just begun. We're still pioneers. They, the members of the Challenger crew, were pioneers.

And I want to say something to the schoolchildren of America who were watching the live coverage of the shuttle's takeoff. I know it is hard to understand, but sometimes painful things like this happen. It's all part of the process of exploration and discovery. It's all part of taking a chance and expanding man's horizons. The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. The Challenger crew was pulling us into the future, and we'll continue to follow them.

I've always had great faith in and respect for our space program, and what happened today does nothing to diminish it. We don't hide our space program. We don't keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That's the way freedom is, and we wouldn't change it for a minute. We'll continue our quest in space. There will be more shuttle flights and more shuttle crews and, yes, more volunteers, more civilians, more teachers in space. Nothing ends here; our hopes and our journeys continue. I want to add that I wish I could talk to every man and woman who works for NASA or who worked on this mission and tell them: "Your dedication and professionalism have moved an impressed us for decades. And we know of your anguish. We share it."

There's a coincidence today. On this day 390 years ago, the great explorer Sir Francis Drake died aboard ship off the coast of Panama. In his lifetime the great frontiers were the oceans, and an historian later said, "He lived by the sea, died on it, and was buried in it." Well today we can say of the Challenger crew: Their dedication was, like Drake's, complete.

The crew of the space shuttle Challenger honored us by the manner in which they lived their lives. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye and "slipped the surly bonds of earth" to touch the face of God."

Thank you.


Rest in Peace Mr. President, You saved us and gave us hope in times of darkness.

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NASA REMEMBERS THE LEGACY OF PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN

The NASA TV "Video-File" (Newsfeed) will feature "A Tribute to Ronald Reagan" beginning today, June 7, at 6:00 p.m. (EDT).

The 6-minute, 45-second package includes historical footage, audio tracks and still images of President Reagan making space-related announcements and speeches. It also features his participation in NASA related events during his presidency.

Among the tribute's highlights: Reagan's directing NASA in 1982 to build an international space station; his eulogizing of the Challenger astronauts in 1986; and Reagan's Earth-to-Space Shuttle phone call congratulating Guy Bluford on becoming the first African-American in space in August of 1983.

"A Tribute to Ronald Reagan" will also be featured on "Gallery" beginning Tuesday, June 8, at 1:00 PM (EDT).

NASA "Video-File" airs at 10 a.m., Noon, 3 p.m., 6 p.m., 9 p.m. and Midnight EDT. NASA "Gallery" is broadcast at 1 p.m. and 1 a.m. EDT.

NASA TV is available on AMC-9, transponder 9C, C-Band, located at 85 degrees west longitude. The frequency is 3880.0 MHz. Polarization is vertical, and audio is monaural at 6.80 MHz. For information about NASA TV on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/ntv

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Wow, the National Guard just practiced their 21 airplane salute for the funeral procession tomorrow. Came right over the house. F-15's, about 1000 feet up, nine groups of two and a final group of 3 where the middle guy nosed straight up into a viking departure right over Pennsylvania Ave. I've still got chills five minutes later...

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I went to the Memorial in Simi Valley last night, it was an unforgettable experience - people from all walks of life, all cultures, assembled in a quiet, California comaraderie. God Speed, Ron Reagan.

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I watched NASA TV's 'A Tribute to Ronald Reagan' and was very moved by the memories from the 1980's - but still not so long ago. I had forgotten that it was during his 1984 State of the Union Speach that President Reagan set forth the goal of placing a permanetly manned space station in orbit. Thank you for the memories Mr. President.

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Have just seen the footage of the late presidents flight to Washington to lay in state on the UK news, it was quite moving to witness the procession and motorcade.

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I saw Reagan in person when he came to JSC for the Challenger service. Then again at a send off for the STS-26 Return to Flight crew. It was good to see him way off in this corner of the country. It was even better to hear his words of support for what we do out here.

I remember us cheering at the STS-26 send off when someone hung the presidential seal on the front of the podium! After all of our waiting, he was finally going to come on stage. Hauck and the rest of the crew looked glad to see him also.

His support for space station won't be forgotten either.

There's a copy of Magee's Hight Flight etched in brass in my office. Every now and then when I look at the plaque I think of Reagan also. The story of Magee is worth a whole thread unto itself.

Forgot about this until about an hr. after the original post, I lived in some apts. that were on the route that Reagan's limo would take when he visited JSC. I would put a sign out in the morning on the little hill near the street that read WE [heart] YOU RONNIE! Or something like that. Always wondered if he saw it.

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I watched the ceremonies of President Reagan leaving the Presidential Library and then later depart for Washington early this morning, Australian time. It was very moving to watch, and it made me proud to be an American.

I was only ten years old when Mr. Reagan left office. At such a young age, I knew him as the President but not much more, as I was not interested in politics. But I do have vivid memories of two things. One, was watching the news with my father early one morning, and they talked about a major nuclear arms agreement being reached during a summit between Mr. Reagan and Soviet President Gorbachev. I asked my dad "Does this mean there will be no nuclear war?" and he replied "Yes." And I was so happy. The other memory was listening to the BBC one night with my dad on his shortwave when the first reports of the Berlin Wall being torn down came in. I remember my dad saying "Well, it looks like Gorbachev is finally tearing down that wall." Even though I was young, I understood the significance of what was happening. Thank you, Mr. Reagan, for eveything you did for the world. You are truly one of our greatest Presidents.

I would also like to send out special condolences to Mrs. Reagan. It takes a person with a strong heart, mind, and soul to so lovingly take care of a spouse like she did in his last days. I know, because my grandmother was such a woman as she took care of my granfather in his dying days. I have the highest respect for Mrs. Reagan. God bless her, and God bless Ronald Reagan.

May he rest in quiet peace.

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Reagan was the first president to get my vote, as an 18 year old in 1984. He was truly a giant among men, and history will be kind to him as one of the best leaders this country has known.
May God rest his soul.

Andrew Messer

Those who wish to leave condolances for Mrs. Reagan can do so at: www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com.

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Not to be disrespectful, but as this thread has now strayed way off the subject of space, I feel it appropriate to provide a little bit of balance for the younger readers who may not remember the Reagan era. Tributes are understandable at the time of a person's demise - but for a more realistic overview of Reagan's achievements, may I suggest:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1232922,00.html

Thank you,

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On Wednesday, June 9, I took the Washington, D.C. subway to the stop at Union Station and then walked the five city blocks to the corner of 1st Street and Constitution Ave., NW. At about 6:30 P.M. the police motorcycles appeared followed by a band and then military contingents alternating from Army, Navy, Coast Gaurd. Air Force and Marine. A second band followed followed playing 'God Bless America' ( the first was playing the hymn 'Faith of Our Fathers' ). A single fighter jet then flew almost directly overhead at a altitude of 1000 feet and was followed by 5 formations of 4 fighter planes. In the last formation, one of the planes seperated and climbed sharply to a much higher altitude in the 'Missing Man Formation'. The color gaurd then appeared and was followed by the horse drawn cassion bearing the casket of President Reagan covered by the flag that flew from the Capital Building on Jan. 20, 1981 - the day that Presindent Reagan became our 40th President.A colorguardsman followed holding the flag of the President of the United States. A black riderless horse followed with the boots that President Reagan had worn when he went horseback riding turned backwards in the stirrups. I could see the procession turn into the Capital grouds 1 block away. Because of the trees I was unable to see the procession after they turned into the Capital but I stayed hoping to hear the band play as the 3 teams of honor guadsman carried President Reagan up the steps and into the rotunda of the Capital. However the sound from the band did not carry far enough for me to do so. The 4 artilery canons were one block from where I stood - by the Robert Taft Memorial - and I could easily hear them and see the flames and smoke coming from them as they fired a 21 gun salute. After the ceremony was over and I had finished talking with some other people - some who had come from places as far away as Kentucy and Michigan - I walked back to Uion Sation and relected on what I had just witnessed. I had not voted for President Reagan either time he was elected and I disagreed with most of his economic policies and with his appointment of Justice Scalia and nomination of Robert Bork to the U.S. Supreme Court. Yet here was a leader with no hidden agenda - it was often said about President Reagan that what you saw was what you got. I also know, although not firsthand, that on personal basis Mr. Reagan was a very nice person who would go far out of his way to help somebody. He was also an animal lover who feed the squirrels on the White House grounds. As far as President Reagan's foreign policy was concerned, when he became President I was worried that he might start a war from the way he spoke about not allowing our enemies to take advantage of the free world. As things turned out it was President Reagan who finally ended the arms race with the Soviet Union and spared the next generation from the threat of a large scale nuclear war. I am eternally grateful that he was able to do so. On Friday morning at the Capial building, after having spent the early hours of the morning waiting to file past his casket in the rotunda, I wrote in the condelance book, that the public were invited to sign, my gratitude. Perhaps I like best to remember President Reagan from the speach he made in Berlin 17 years ago, almost to the day, where he strongly begged Mikel Gorbachev to 'tear down this wall'. A section of that wall today is on display at President Reagan's library in Simi Valley, CA, where he was laid to rest last light as the sun sat over the mountains that he dearly loved. And I learned that my own bark was worse than my bite. Thank you President Reagan.

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Originally posted by FFrench:

Not to be disrespectful, but as this thread has now strayed way off the subject of space, FF

Hey FF - It's under the topic of chatting about about current news.

This IS current news we are chatting about.

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"Hey FF - It's under the topic of chatting about about current news. This IS current news we are chatting about."

Well said Rizz...I might have used a little "stronger" reminder. Having served in the Air Force under Reagan, I can tell you first hand what a profoundly positive effect he had on the military and it's morale. We were all so proud to have him as our commander and chief.

Although I never had the honor of meeting him, I have heard many stories from friends who had and they all said that he was even more impressive in person in every way. The late 70's was truly a low point in the collective morale of the nation and I would say that Ronald Reagan was THE reason that all changed. What a great man.

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Hello Rizz,

"Hey FF - It's under the topic of chatting about about current news.

This IS current news we are chatting about.

Rizz"

Thank you, and my apologies - my understanding was that this was a website about spaceflight and collectibles, and "news and events" related to SPACEFLIGHT news and events. This thread certainly began that way, with references to the late President's effects on space policy while in office.

Obviously you see it differently, and general memories of Reagan's era and policies are fine, too.

Nevertheless, in the week of his funeral I think I will omit detailing Reagan's tripling of the national debt, support and funding for both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden, support of apartheid, backing of Central American death squads, trading arms for hostages, the Iran-Contra affair... etc., etc... as I see it as about as relevant to spaceflight as the eulogies posted here to him.

And to make this at least vaguely relevant to space flight, I should mention that the Reagan Library in Simi Valley is a most interesting place to visit, and the displays there include a flown Apollo 14 "Beep Beep" patch in a presentation frame signed by Cernan and crew.

Respectfully,

FF

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Does this patch have Dr. Schmitt or Gen. Engle as the third crewmember ?

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Does this patch have Dr. Schmitt or Gen. Engle as the third crewmember ?

The "Beep Beep" patch lists Cernan, Evans and Engle as the back-up crew for Apollo 14. A replica of the patch can be seen here.

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Let's avoid straying too far off topic. All but the Free Space forum are intended for discussion of space-related topics. This thread was on-topic so long as it focused on Reagan's influence on space exploration. As stated before and elsewhere, if you want to debate partisan politics (beyond space policy), visit the plenitude of sites that exist for such.

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For more pictures and an amusing anecdote about the "Beep Beep" patch, have a look at:
http://genedorr.com/patches/Apollo/Ap14.html

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FF,

You've touched a nerve and I'd be more than happy to debate the issues you brought up in your last post. Your post does a great disservice to the record of Reagan for those cS members who are too young or to uninformed to know his record. Every single "negative" item you listed can intelligently be explained. It is not as black and white as you suggest.

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion and many people feel strongly about politics. But I find it in very bad taste that you chose to post your political opinion in this "Space" forum. Please feel free to email if you're interested in discussing your generalizations more extensively.

I apologize Robert if this post "stretches" the rules of posting. I will not post again on this subject, but I felt FF's post, as biased as it is, deserved a response.

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Hello John,

Thanks for your message. You are quite correct, here is not the place to post such opinions. I think if you read my postings a little closer you will, in fact find that I was suggesting just that - and also trying to suggest balance, rather than black and white partisanship.

So, in the spirit of what Robert has asked, let me say what a great online collection you have, John, and I encourage anyone here to check it out. And I think I too won't add anything else to this thread - it's not the venue to get into a debate about non-space-related historical accuracy (or lack of it).

Thanks,

FF

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FF,

Well put.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Let's avoid straying too far off topic. All but the Free Space forum are intended for discussion of space-related topics. This thread was on-topic so long as it focused on Reagan's influence on space exploration. As stated before and elsewhere, if you want to debate partisan politics (beyond space policy), visit the plenitude of sites that exist for such.

So, Robert, I see that you decide to intervene when someone objects to FF's post. However, I don't see any of the same with FF's original post with a link to such an article. You let that stay intact with no response for over 2 days. So, is it OK to just post criticism of Reagan on this site?

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posted 06-13-2004 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Richard:
So, is it OK to just post criticism of Reagan on this site?

Obviously not, because the majority of the posts in this thread were in praise of the late president.

Sometimes (perhaps naively) I try to let you moderate yourselves. Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't.

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Good point.

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Why do people enjoy antagonizing others ! This was a thread made up of people who were upset about the passing of our 40th. president. If you didn't like him, move on to the next thread. Don't like to here people's praises of him ? Then go away, don't infringe on this thread with your negative thoughts as it is obviously unwelcome. FF is an antagonist who is looking to argue, that is obvious. My suggestion would be to post a thread somewhere about things you didn't like about president Regan (somewhere else), But then again you would be very lonely with your empty hatred and you wouldn't be able to practice your passive agressive behavior. Why would someone be so selfish and inconsiderate ? The space community would agree that President Regan is well worthy of this thread; so as my mom taught me..."If you have nothing nice to say..............

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My sentiments exactly.. When my neighbor chose to fly her flag at full staff all last week, I asked why, out of respect for the late president they would not lower the flag to 1/2 staff. " We did not prescribe to like any of Reagan's politics when he was alive" was the response. After explaining that the respect was for the Man and the Office that he held..the flag was lowered. Now is not the time to quibble politics, especially those of a decade ago.


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