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NAAmodel#240
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posted 07-10-2016 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NAAmodel#240   Click Here to Email NAAmodel#240     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As reported in the June 2016 edition of Federation of European Philatelic Associations the proposal to amend Fédération Internationale de Philatélie (FIP) General Regulations for EXhibitions (GREX) to merge the Astro and Aerophilatelic Classes has been withdrawn.

In the opinion of most Aero and Astrophilatelists, the proposed change would have damaged Aerophilately and essentially destroyed Astrophilately. As the U.S. Delegate to the FIP Section on Astrophilately, I am proud of the response by Space Unit (ATA), the American Philatelic Society (APS), and the American Air Mail Society (AAMS) in their very vocal opposition to the proposed change.

Congratulations on an important victory.

yeknom-ecaps
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posted 07-10-2016 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yeknom-ecaps   Click Here to Email yeknom-ecaps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT work David!!!!! As stated, the merger would have destroyed the Astrophilately exhibit field!

Antoni RIGO
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posted 07-12-2016 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antoni RIGO   Click Here to Email Antoni RIGO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a very good new for astrocollectors as well as for the aerocollectors. However, for Astrophilately this victory is only temporary.

From several years ago, astrophilatelic exhibits are constantly decreasing and this is a great problem to be solved. If not astro exhibits, not astro jury and probably not astro competitive class in FIP exhibits.

It is really necessary working together in promoting Astrophilately (and astro exhibits too) through attracting new collectors and keeping the already existing ones. Maybe a new and deep review of Astro Guidelines can help to reach this goal.

As Spanish FIP Astro Delegate I think we cannot wait and sit back to reverse this situation without active plans to change something. Any help, any idea or any proposal can be considered.

Golden rule for Astrophilately must not be changed: covers with exact date and near place, but space history through properly cancelled space covers should open to new possibilities.

In summary: a temporary victory that should be definitive if all involved astrocollectors work in same way. Promote, promote and promote Astrophilately.

LM1
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posted 07-17-2016 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM1   Click Here to Email LM1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. Promoting the hobby of Astrophilately/Space Philately is essential to both expand the hobby and preserve the hobby for future collectors. Unfortunately, in the US, the hobby of Space Philately is no longer promoted in the pages of stamp collecting publications as it once was in the past. Also, Space Philately is no longer represented at leading stamp shows in the US with booths and lectures as it once was in the past. The hobby is dwindling without the active support of current space philatelists.

onesmallstep
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posted 07-18-2016 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with the post above that space philately and collecting seems to have dwindled down to a 'niche' in the overall stamp scene. Maybe the end of the Space Shuttle program has something to do with this, plus the fact that, except for big shows like the recent World Stamp exhibition in NYC, there are fewer 'brick and mortar' forums to promote astrophilately to the general public.

Having said that, I think that recent World Stamp show did a pretty good job of highlighting space topical collecting, what with the planets/New Horizons-Pluto first day of issue, several space philately lectures and the excellent framed exhibits on show. I was surprised that the ATA/APS Space Unit did not have a booth.

As with toy train collecting, which also skews to an older demographic, stamp collecting and space philately in particular has to become more engaged with younger prospective collectors-to-be if the hobby is to survive.

cvrlvr99
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posted 07-19-2016 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cvrlvr99   Click Here to Email cvrlvr99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I write to SU members in whichever cities I visit to exhibit my Space Covers. Just returned from Minnesota and had three of 9 invitees attend. In NYC we had over 20 people at each of 4 meetings. But we do need to have more exhibits shown as Tony stated.

LM1
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posted 07-21-2016 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM1   Click Here to Email LM1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These "Stamps & Covers" threads are the only public display of interest in Space Philately. The many space stamp/cover publications of the past have all disappeared, with the notable exceptions of "ORBIT" and the "ASTROPHILE". These are both great publications, but they do not lead to publicity for the hobby. The hobby needs more publicity in order to expand its followers/membership.

LM1
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posted 08-01-2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM1   Click Here to Email LM1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Antoni RIGO:
Promote, promote and promote Astrophilately.
In the past, the hobby of space philately and the IASP "Explorer" in particular had plenty of publicity in the US philatelic press, particularly in Linn's Stamp News. The IASP had so much publicity that the press clippings filled one scrapbook and I have enough clippings to fill two scrapbooks (which I still have). The membership of the IASP increased to over 1100 space philatelists due to this publicity and our many activities. This all ended in 1990.

Later, when I was Editor of the SU "Astrophile," there was no publicity. We got a few new members each month, but not like the old days.

Now, there is absolutely no publicity and the SU website is inactive. Current SU members are not interested in publicizing the hobby of space philately. When the few remaining space philatelists are gone, the hobby will probably merge with aerophilately because there will be no one left to prevent this.

fimych
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posted 08-01-2016 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fimych   Click Here to Email fimych     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allow me to add my 5 cents to the thread, as probably one of the youngest in the field – only a couple of years experience. I have never attended any kind of astrophilately exhibition or event, never been a member of any dedicated organization (tried to contact SU for a membership, but unsuccessfully).

Just been looking through the forums for the last year or so, and what I see, there is a degradation in the enthusiasm even in this year period, some forums become sleepy, some enter the coma. Even if there are some updates from moderators, there is almost no life. I went over many collector sites – it looks the 90s were the best age for the flowering (probably enjoying the internet as a new medium), but almost all of them are inactive for some years. I am glad to mention that there are still some very nice live sites and this encourage me to continue mine.

Going through the forums, I don't see many new collectors joining, mostly there are old, experienced guys that dive into the astrophilately depth and chatting with each other while all the newbies have nothing to say and are mostly interested in colored wrappers of exotic countries (at least this is what I see in the Russian-speaking community). I have several reasons in mind, but not sure they are relevant for the discussion. So back to my point, I don't see any excitement in the astrophilately or in the philately in general among young people.

Needless to say that space exploration itself become a common activity that deserves no "WOW" (with rare exception). Sometimes the rookies become frustrated after several unsuccessful post or fear that they have noting interesting in their collections – I had several such observations.

Many times, showing items from my collection on different forums, I got the responses that "it is not the real philately," it is "topical garbage," it is "not according to the FIP," etc. But personally, I don't care what is upon FIP and what is not. This is my collection and I am really glad that here I am getting a great support from a great collectors!

In many cases people perceive collecting as an investment thus focusing on the rarities, but not a "topical" hobby. Getting to the issue of a rare stuff, it is not simple to get and not cheap (meaning "rarity"), thus pushing off the thought of value-based astrophilately, especially on the background of huge amount of common and cheap things that do not develop any interest. So, after all this, how to attract new collectors? I don't know what should be the cure — I just point at the painful spot.

Ohhh... it looks like I am writing too much...

LM1
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posted 08-02-2016 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM1   Click Here to Email LM1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding your mention that space philately is "topical garbage," I know that you were quoting some other collector. Yes, space philately is topical because it is devoted to one aspect of philately. However, over the years, space philately exhibits have qualified for many FIP events and they have won many honors/awards.

This was due to the efforts of Dr. Ben Ramkissoon (now in his 90s), a devoted space philately collector, exhibitor and international FIP delegate, who I am proud to say that I met once for a long meeting about the future of the hobby. Ben was responsible for working with the FIP to get space philately exhibits qualified for international and US competitions. He was very successful at this.

So, space philately is not just a "Topical" hobby, it is on an equal footing with many other aspects of philately.

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