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dwager
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posted 09-26-2014 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My name is Daniel. I just joined collectSPACE after reading postings for about a year. I've been going through a NASA, Apollo, Gemini obsession since finding some original NASA photos at an estate sale last year — reading all the books I can, getting autographs, etc.. Now I'm collecting covers.

Does anyone know where I could find an Apollo 11 postal cover with the mission emblem on the left? (Also, how much would these typically run?) I've been keeping an eye out on eBay with no luck... Thanks for any help!

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 09-26-2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would, and often do, reach out to Ken Havekotte. He is an active member of this board and owns Space Coast Cover Service. He is knowledgeable, helpful, and as honest as they come.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-26-2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Daniel and welcome to collectSPACE! Glad to hear you're starting to collect postal space covers and let me answer your questions the best I can.

In my opinion, the best "so-called official" mission emblem covers for Apollo 11 would be those that were sold at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in June/July 1969; mainly on the space center itself, including the main VIP viewing site area(s), at their souvenir gift shops operated by the NASA Exchange Council.

The cachet on this particular cover depicts the colorful Apollo 11 patch-emblem design, 3-inches wide, printed on the left side of the envelope.

Unfortunately, Daniel, many of the original postmarked covers for Apollo 11's liftoff on July 16, 1969, are not always in the best condition. Many have their back-surface flaps stuck or glued solid. In addition, during the early Apollo era, U.S. Postal Service regulations required, in most cases, that all received and processed space covers be addressed in someway at the bottom right of the envelopes.

Prices do vary based upon many considerations; such as condition of envelope, cancel type, addressed or not, if the back flap is glued solid or not, and if there is a provided insert card pertaining to the mission, and so on.

Prices for this particular described cover type for man's first landing on another world could be anywhere from $5 to $15 or more. I've seen a few sometimes go high as $25 or so.

The Apollo 11 crewmen themselves had acquired hundreds of the KSC-NASA Exchange Apollo 11 emblem covers for their own uses (mainly for crew insurance protection for their families). It was one of three different cachet cover types the lunar crew was able to acquire and even take many along with them on their epic space voyage more than 45 years ago.

Other KSC-NASA Exchange mission emblem covers were printed for all the manned Apollos (except Apollo 7) from 1968-72, all Skylabs (including the OWS launch) in 1973, the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project and the twin Viking voyages to Mars in 1975, and all 135 shuttle missions from 1981-2011, overall, generally speaking.

Keep in mind, though Daniel, that some manned/human spaceflight missions had more than one design or cover types available at the Kennedy Space Center throughout the later Apollo and shuttle program years.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-26-2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joel Katzowitz:
I would, and often do, reach out to Ken Havekotte.
Hey Joel, Just saw your posted message, right before I had submitted my own thinking I was perhaps the first to respond to Daniel.

Thank you, dear friend, for the kind remarks about my space cover service and honest reputation. We go back a long time, Joel, and I can't tell you how much our friendship means to me. You're the best, Joel!

dwager
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posted 09-26-2014 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joel Katzowitz:
I would, and often do, reach out to Ken Havekotte.
Thanks, Joel - Grateful for the reply! Ken replied and it looks like I came to the right place.

dwager
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posted 09-26-2014 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
Glad to hear you're starting to collect postal space covers and let me answer your questions the best I can.
Ken, thanks - I now know more in one email than I had found out through a year of searching myself! I would definitely like to purchase one of these covers that you mentioned. I have Apollo 8-17, minus this one.

You anticipated another question I have: I want to display these in a frame and have found only a couple of examples of Apollo 7 with a mission emblem - not sure what these are. Do you have any suggestions for adding this mission to a framed display of covers? (I can be reached by email through this site.) Gratefully...

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-26-2014 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daniel, while there are no printed color mission emblems on Apollo 7 launch-day covers, I did prepare a limited few launch covers with an appropriate Apollo 7 emblem vinyl decal sticker attached. If interested, let me see what might be available, even though I know most are gone.

Besides the colorful printed Apollo mission emblem covers, Daniel, keep in mind that there were other "official" covers as such "out there" from the Apollo era.

The main postal unit at Kennedy Space Center, located inside the center's headquarters or primary administration facility, provided NASA rubber stamp cachets or impressions to thousands of received/mailed-in launch-day envelopes. Not just for manned space shots, but also, in commemorating other major space events from 1965-75.

Though not colorful nor attractive as the provided printed emblem cachet covers, the on-base provided NASA rubber stamp impressions only contained a single ink color.

They did, however, for most of the Apollo lunar flights consist of the crew flight emblem in blue rubber stamp ink.

astrobv
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posted 09-27-2014 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobv   Click Here to Email astrobv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
(including the OWS launch)
Can someone explain the OWS launch for Skylab?

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 09-27-2014 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be the launch of the uncrewed Skylab station itself.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 09-27-2014 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The OWS launch for Skylab pertains to the unmanned Skylab Orbital Workshop Station (OWS) launch on May 14, 1973.

For the final Saturn V launch, the empty propellant tanks of the big Saturn's 3rd stage had been outfitted and modified to accommodate the entire Skylab orbital space station.

It was the last Saturn V launch vehicle that flew, from the same pad 39A as all, except one, of the manned Apollo/Saturn V lunar missions (Apollo 9 included).

dwager
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posted 09-27-2014 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, I sent you an email this AM regarding the Apollo 11 cover but forgot to mention the Apollo 7 cover, which I would like to purchase as well, if you have any left.

Thanks again - I can complete my display because of your help!

dwager
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posted 11-10-2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, thank you for your time this past weekend! It was a pleasure working with you — I am grateful for the way you completed my cover collection for the Apollo program. I look forward to seeing you in a year, if we don't connect in the interim. — Daniel Wager

Ken Havekotte
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posted 11-10-2014 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daniel, the pleasure was all mine, I assure you, in meeting and working with you this weekend at the AAMS in trying to complete your Apollo mission emblem cachet cover collection. I'm so glad you were able to complete the Apollo flight series with those better Apollo launch covers needed. We'll keep in touch, for sure, and thanks for stopping by.

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