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cosmos-walter
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posted 01-12-2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Covers were sold as being flown with Russian RSM-54 ballistic rocket on Dec. 17, 2007. They are commemorating the 50th anniversary of Sputnik flight.

According to accompanying papers they were launched from a Russian atomic submarine. Does anybody of you know the name of this submarine?

Ken Havekotte
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posted 01-12-2013 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can it be the same Russian sub, named Murena, that had been used on prior sub-orbital RCM/RSM-40 missile launch "space mail" projects off the coast of the Kula peninsula in Northern Europe?

cosmos-walter
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posted 01-12-2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On December 17, 2007 a RSM-54 rocket was launched from submarine K-114 Tula at Barents Sea.

I have some doubts, this rocket actually carried covers. Thus I wonder, which submarine is given in the COAs coming with these covers.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 01-12-2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walter, I know similar sub-rocket launched/flown covers were produced by the Russian Federal Rocket Research Center, "Makeyeu," along with partnership with the Russian Polar Association and philatelic dealer Carsten Fuchs in 1997 and again in 2000 for the New Millennium.

Perhaps the 2007 sub-rocket firing is the same as the above?

cosmos-walter
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posted 01-12-2013 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, you are right: Similar covers or stamps exist from the following dates:

04.10.1997RSM-4040. anniversary of Sputnik
31.12.1999RSM-40MTrans-Millennium-Rocket
12.04.2001RSM-5040. anniversary of Vostok
15.10.2003RSM-5225. anniversary of Soyuz 31
05.07.2005RSM-505 years ISS
17.12.2007RSM-5450. anniversary of Sputnik
29.06.2011RSM-5450. anniversary of Vostok

Here I only found one R-29 launch from Barents Sea, which could match. This is the 17.12.2007.

cosmos-walter
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posted 01-13-2013 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Letters or stamps from these flights are accompanied by similar documentation. In my opinion all seven rockets carried philatelic items - or none.

Jonathan McDowell provides a list of all suborbital rocket launches.

NASAspaceflight has a forum on suborbital launches that corresponds with Jonathan's list.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 01-13-2013 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walter, I have a few of the above noted covers and stamps with "carried/flown" documentation.

But are you saying there may be a chance that all of those listed did not carry nor have any philatelic items aboard? Are there any other sources that may prove one way or another?

cosmos-walter
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posted 01-13-2013 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, I also have a few of the above noted covers and stamps with "carried/flown" documentation. I never doubted they were flown into space.

During my research for a catalogue on "Pioneer Rocket Mail and Space Mail" I looked for these launches in Internet. Only for 12/17/2007 I found a rocket launch from a Russian submarine at Barents Sea.

As by now I did not receive any answer to questions I addressed to Russian Federal Rocket Research Center Makeyev and to somebody connected with Duma.

As you can see on NASAspaceflight, Russia proudly announces their successful test rocket flights from submarines. On the other hand it is unlikely NORAD missed at least 6 Russian rocket launches reaching a height of 1200 km.

Perhaps some cS'ers might help us proving one way or another.

By the side: On 06/06/1995 a converted RSM-50 rocket successfully carried philatelic covers: TKM-Wolna, Experiment Elrabek. Russian friends collecting astrophilately told me this was the only sounding rocket built by rocket research center Makeyev which carried mail.

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