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Topic: Covers flown with RSM-54 ballistic rocket (2007)
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cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 392
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 01-12-2013 11:42 AM
   
Covers were sold as being flown with Russian RSM-54 ballistic rocket on Dec. 17, 2007. They are commemorating the 50th anniversary of Sputnik flight. According to accompanying papers they were launched from a Russian atomic submarine. Does anybody of you know the name of this submarine?
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Ken Havekotte
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From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-12-2013 01:18 PM
Can it be the same Russian sub, named Murena, that had been used on prior sub-orbital RCM/RSM-40 missile launch "space mail" projects off the coast of the Kula peninsula in Northern Europe? |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 392
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 01-12-2013 02:03 PM
On December 17, 2007 a RSM-54 rocket was launched from submarine K-114 Tula at Barents Sea. I have some doubts, this rocket actually carried covers. Thus I wonder, which submarine is given in the COAs coming with these covers. |
Ken Havekotte
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From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-12-2013 03:22 PM
Walter, I know similar sub-rocket launched/flown covers were produced by the Russian Federal Rocket Research Center, "Makeyeu," along with partnership with the Russian Polar Association and philatelic dealer Carsten Fuchs in 1997 and again in 2000 for the New Millennium.Perhaps the 2007 sub-rocket firing is the same as the above? |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 392
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 01-12-2013 03:46 PM
Ken, you are right: Similar covers or stamps exist from the following dates: | 04.10.1997 | RSM-40 | 40. anniversary of Sputnik | | 31.12.1999 | RSM-40M | Trans-Millennium-Rocket | | 12.04.2001 | RSM-50 | 40. anniversary of Vostok | | 15.10.2003 | RSM-52 | 25. anniversary of Soyuz 31 | | 05.07.2005 | RSM-50 | 5 years ISS | | 17.12.2007 | RSM-54 | 50. anniversary of Sputnik | | 29.06.2011 | RSM-54 | 50. anniversary of Vostok |
Here I only found one R-29 launch from Barents Sea, which could match. This is the 17.12.2007. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 392
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 01-13-2013 04:20 AM
Letters or stamps from these flights are accompanied by similar documentation. In my opinion all seven rockets carried philatelic items - or none.Jonathan McDowell provides a list of all suborbital rocket launches. NASAspaceflight has a forum on suborbital launches that corresponds with Jonathan's list. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 1744
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-13-2013 04:44 AM
Walter, I have a few of the above noted covers and stamps with "carried/flown" documentation.But are you saying there may be a chance that all of those listed did not carry nor have any philatelic items aboard? Are there any other sources that may prove one way or another? |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 392
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 01-13-2013 06:03 AM
Ken, I also have a few of the above noted covers and stamps with "carried/flown" documentation. I never doubted they were flown into space.During my research for a catalogue on "Pioneer Rocket Mail and Space Mail" I looked for these launches in Internet. Only for 12/17/2007 I found a rocket launch from a Russian submarine at Barents Sea. As by now I did not receive any answer to questions I addressed to Russian Federal Rocket Research Center Makeyev and to somebody connected with Duma. As you can see on NASAspaceflight, Russia proudly announces their successful test rocket flights from submarines. On the other hand it is unlikely NORAD missed at least 6 Russian rocket launches reaching a height of 1200 km. Perhaps some cS'ers might help us proving one way or another. By the side: On 06/06/1995 a converted RSM-50 rocket successfully carried philatelic covers: TKM-Wolna, Experiment Elrabek. Russian friends collecting astrophilately told me this was the only sounding rocket built by rocket research center Makeyev which carried mail. |
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