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Topic: ISS Expedition 17 insignia
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Harald Kraenzel
Member Posts: 288
From: Dinslaken,Germany
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 04-22-2008 02:10 AM
   
And it looks like both patches (Reisman and Volkov/Kononenko) do have the "e" instead of an "E" in the name Kononenko. |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 544
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 04-22-2008 04:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Jorge, believe it...
As we said here in Spain I must to eat my words... You had the reason and I beg your pardon: here is the three names one. So we have (by the moment) two "official" patches, the three (on ISS) and the four (launch day) names... Will we get all of them, 3-4-5, but the no names as official patches at last? |
NavySpaceFan
Member Posts: 649
From: Norfolk, VA
Registered: May 2007
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posted 04-22-2008 08:03 AM
Okay, now where did the black background come from? Unless it is a trick of the lighting, it looks like the four name patch in the pic Robert linked to is black vice blue. This is getting weird! |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 732
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 04-22-2008 08:43 AM
Well then let's start making the three name patch as seen on ISS. |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 544
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 04-22-2008 02:45 PM
I agree you Jacques. Tim, go ahead! |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 05-05-2008 10:20 AM
The special order has been placed. I should have them in hand in about four weeks. I am already preparing the packets to send them out to you all.(I included with the order a copy of the picture of the patch as it was being attached to the bulkhead of the ISS - so there will be no confusion.) |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 05-07-2008 07:16 AM
When the STS-124 arrived in Florida for their TCDT, was Greg Chamitoff wearing a three name Expedition 17 patch (Volkov, Kononenko, Chamitoff) or a four name version (with Reisman and Chamitoff) on the "American" side? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 30779
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-07-2008 07:19 AM
Chamitoff was wearing the four-name version: |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 06-07-2008 12:34 AM
The patches arrived and I am very pleased with the quality!I have mailed all of the individual orders yesterday first class USPS. The patches look great and you'll soon see for yourselves. I do have a few left for those who want to get in on it now. Email me if interested. |
ShuttleDiscovery
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Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 06-09-2008 11:46 AM
The ISS now has the four name version onboard! I think we need to start making these now!  Notice how Garrett has velcroed the three name one to his leg (the photo must have been taken just after they changed the patches). |
keith.wilson
Member Posts: 72
From: Callander, Stirling, Scotland
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 06-10-2008 03:56 PM
Latest photos coming down from the ISS show three different versions of the ISS-17 crew patch being worn by crewmembers! Check out photo S124-E-007918:4 name version (Reisman and Chamitoff)
3 name version (Reisman)
3 name version (Chamitoff) All official crew patches! |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 732
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-10-2008 05:17 PM
That is interesting...So we have to make a three name version with Chamitoff's name then... |
ShuttleDiscovery
Member Posts: 152
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Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 06-11-2008 10:25 AM
I think that would be a good idea actually, because if AB aren't making named versions then we might as well make all official versions of the patch in my opinion, including the three name Chamitoff and four name variations. The few of us that buy these will be able to proudly say 'I own every single version of the Expedition 17 patch!' |
lm5eagle
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Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 06-11-2008 01:49 PM
I support this very strongly. Can we have a three name (Chamitoff) and a four name version made? Is there wide enough support for this? |
Mike Z
Member Posts: 451
From: Ellicott City, Maryland
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 06-11-2008 03:41 PM
I'm in too for the other two patches. I hope it will not be the same way with the Expedition 18 and all of the future Expedition patches. It will drive everyone crazy. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 30779
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-11-2008 04:03 PM
The four-name version will be available from AB (either by retail or special order) after the expedition. |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 544
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 06-11-2008 04:05 PM
I'm agree with you Mike. And I'm in too for Chamitoff one. |
Melroy Fan
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posted 06-11-2008 06:13 PM
I'll go for the two other versions as well.But with all of the different versions, it gets very confusing for our visitors to our Challenger Space Center. Those who aren't in the know, don't understand why there is four different versions of the same patch on our display. |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 06-11-2008 06:36 PM
Anticipating this, I've already contacted AB and we can special order both the three-name "Volkov - Konnonenko - Chamitoff" as well as the four name "Volkov - Konnonenko - Reisman - Chamitoff" versions right now. The cost will be $5 each plus $2 for shipping.I will give everyone until the end of June to send me their payment. I will place the order on July 1 and expect delivery by the end of July. Use the old order form and write down which version(s)and how many you want. Robert remind me to thank Greg Chamitoff for wearing a four name when he arrived for launch but a different three name version on orbit. Here we go again! |
lm5eagle
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posted 06-11-2008 11:02 PM
Will Jacques be providing the same service as previously for the European contingent?It was very much appreciated by those who availed themselves of this service. |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 732
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-12-2008 03:14 AM
Yes I will provide the service for Europe again, if that is okay with Tim. |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 06-12-2008 05:07 AM
Of course it's okay for Jacques to partner again on this. It's a tremendous help. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 30779
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-12-2008 09:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by KSCartist:
Use the old order form and write down which version(s)and how many you want.
Rather than use the old form, use this revised order form, courtesy Tim. |
lm5eagle
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Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 06-13-2008 02:39 AM
Well I have now seen photographs of individuals wearing three name and four name versions of the Expedition 17 patch and both versions displayed on interior of the ISS.
But has anyone seen the no name patch being worn by any spacefarers? After all it is a NASA approved design, but to what avail if nobody uses it!Can I ask a question about the following NASA statement: 'The NASA insignia design for space station flights is reserved for use by the astronauts and for other official use as the NASA Administrator may authorize.' Would that mean that, for example, a space enthusiast may not sew even the no name version on any apparel of leisure clothing or is that an authorised activity? Presumably the NASA Administrator does approve of the insignia being worn as lapel pins. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 30779
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-13-2008 08:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by lm5eagle:
But has anyone seen the no name patch being worn by any spacefarers?
I am fairly certain I have seen it on NASA TV, or at least embroidered versions of it on ISS crew apparel, though have not captured any screenshots to share. There are also patches stowed in the ISS OFK, which could very well be the no name version. quote:
Would that mean that, for example, a space enthusiast may not sew even the no name version on any apparel of leisure clothing or is that an authorised activity?
As the patches and pins exist and are made by contractors to NASA, they are "authorized activities." The clause exists to protect the insignia from being used in commercial promotions, such as the golf shot from the ISS, without permission. |
johntosullivan
Member Posts: 146
From: Cork, Cork, Ireland
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 06-14-2008 03:24 PM
I'll be ordering all of these patches. But under protest. Why is this becoming such a chore? One glimmer of hope here is that Tim has allowed us on the forum to buy complete and accurate versions of the patches. If this continues, maybe AB Emblem will just produce these versions without recourse to special orders. There's obviously a market. |
aerospace educator
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posted 06-14-2008 04:51 PM
I do not see ordering these one-of-a-kind patches as a chore. I think we are getting one heck of a bargain and with relative ease. For U.S. orders, the Expedition 17 (no name) patch from AB Emblems costs $5.99 plus $7.50 for shipping. Tim is graciously charging only $5.00 per patch with $2.00 for shipping for patches we cannot get elsewhere. I have ordered the other two patches with gratitude. I do not know what Jacques is charging for patches sent to the Republic of Ireland, but I am sure it is comparable. |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 732
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-15-2008 05:20 AM
I ship for what it costs me to send them in Europe, 72 eurocent Priority mail, that is a little more than $1 for one to five patches.I sell the patches for the same price as Tim $5 so with shipping that would be $6 total for one patch. I do not have to make a profit out of it, its just a service... |
johntosullivan
Member Posts: 146
From: Cork, Cork, Ireland
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 06-15-2008 04:23 PM
I know it's easy for us but it's still a chore for Tim and Jacques to provide this great service to all of us.I was just saying that AB Emblem, etc. should be organising this a bit better so that guys like Tim and Jacques don't have to be so generous with their time. |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 732
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-18-2008 12:59 PM
The Reisman patches are in the mail for those who have orderd them by me. You can all expect them in the comming days. Thank you all for ordering. |
keith.wilson
Member Posts: 72
From: Callander, Stirling, Scotland
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 06-18-2008 01:32 PM
....and thank you Jacques for providing such a great service to European patch collectors! |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 07-17-2008 07:17 AM
The Expedition 17 second crew (with Chamitoff) and the four name version will be ordered today from AB Emblem. Thanks to Jacques for doing the "heavy lifting" on this batch. As before I expect it to take four weeks so look for my update around the middle of August. |
Bill Hunt
Member Posts: 378
From: Irvine, CA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-17-2008 02:09 PM
Thanks to both of you for the effort! |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2645
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 08-17-2008 11:21 AM
The second crew and four name versions arrived via UPS on Saturday. I've just spent the last hour and a half to get them all ready to be mailed. They will go out Monday or Tuesday.Please drop me an email when you receive yours (you know who you are). By the way, I have three sets of first, second and four name crew patches available. I also have six sets of first and second crew available. Email me if interested. |
Bill Hunt
Member Posts: 378
From: Irvine, CA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 08-17-2008 03:16 PM
Outstanding news! Thanks so much again for your efforts on this, Tim. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 862
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-19-2011 07:33 AM
It has been some time, but here is the version that was worn on the Sokols by Volkov and Kononenko.  Only 20 or so were made locally in Russia from the original artwork (like the TMA-12 patch that was on the same suits). This was before NASA got hold of the artwork and made their own digital version. You will notice that the "E" in Kononenko is in fact an "E" and not an "e", as was mistakenly drawn in the NASA artwork and translated into the embroidered AB Emblem patches. Also, the names are positioned more to the sides. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 862
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-19-2011 08:03 AM
And here is a corrected "E" version of the AB Emblem patch, made last year when Kononenko and Volkov re-ordered it to use as gifts to museums and schools etc. |
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