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Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-24-2014 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More than a year ago, I began conversations with Nick Proach of Proach Models about commissioning a 1:100 scale Orion and Delta 4 Heavy stack, as will launch NASA's Exploration Flight Test-1 (EFT-1). The result of those talks has now arrived and I couldn't be more thrilled with how it turned out.

The model stands an impressive 2.5 feet tall from the bottom of the R-68A engines to the tip of the launch abort system tower...

p51
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posted 11-24-2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, love that model.

The only problem is you can't run around the house making rocket noises after yelling, "LIFTOFF" from the base! And if I had a model like that, I'd surely be doing that very thing.

GACspaceguy
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posted 11-24-2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, great model, now for the full scale one next week!

hotdog
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posted 11-25-2014 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotdog   Click Here to Email hotdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks good, but where are the feed lines on the tanks?

Ronpur
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posted 11-27-2014 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the RealSpace model I built, and all the photos I researched, the lines are on the opposite side of the markings. I can never decide which side I like to display!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-27-2014 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, the lines are on the back side of the vehicle, if the mission markings are on the front. The Proach model includes them, too.

ejectr
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posted 11-28-2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice stuff...

mach3valkyrie
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posted 11-28-2014 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very Nice!

I have a Nick Proach Gemini-Titan. He does excellent work.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-02-2014 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
United Launch Alliance now has a 1:120 scale Delta 4 Heavy with Orion capsule model available through their online store.

PeterO
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posted 12-02-2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly, the 1/120 scale Delta IV Heavy with Orion Capsule is $280, but the 1/120 scale Delta IV Heavy with a standard payload shroud is $140. No price-gouging there

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-02-2014 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It likely has more to do with the economies of scale. The Delta 4 Heavy with Orion is applicable to just this one mission and therefore the model is a special run. The standard Delta 4 Heavy model can and has been used for six launches.

Ronpur
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posted 12-02-2014 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the Orion requires a bit more work than just a payload shroud.

pupnik
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posted 12-02-2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pupnik     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PeterO:
Interestingly, the 1/120 scale Delta IV Heavy with Orion Capsule is $280...
Hey, even scaling that price back up from 1:120 to full, that's only $33,600... a bargain!

bdipaolo
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posted 12-03-2014 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The shape of the BPC is all wrong (photo).

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-03-2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having seen and photographed the vehicle during its rollout, I can tell you that the photos of the LAS (the Orion "BPC" is not a BPC) tend to distort its actual shape. Depending on the angle of the photo, it can appear more tapered than it really is.

The Proach model and (obviously) the ULA model were both based on the actual specs of the vehicle, as provided directly by ULA.

Retro Rocket
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posted 12-03-2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree, it's too round.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-03-2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be absolutely honest, I had the same concern — until I received the model. There is something about the way it photographs that creates that impression. But in person, it is properly conical. And it matches the details provided by ULA.

Retro Rocket
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posted 12-03-2014 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm nit picking, it's a neat model, I wish I had the time to make one but 2015 is booked...

bdipaolo
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posted 12-04-2014 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure it's a BPC even if they don't call it that. It is ALSO an aerodynamic fairing. And there is no way I believe the BPC in the model shown in the photo matches the actual at all. The difference is very obvious.

It looks like nearly a hemisphere, not an ogive. Maybe it was fixed in later productions. I'm not being mean, but to me the point of this forum is accurate scale modeling and we should encourage manufacturers to that goal.

mercsim
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posted 12-05-2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercsim   Click Here to Email mercsim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nick is an excellent modeler. However, I think he is more artist than historian. There are several other details that are wrong. I have also seen it in some of his other work.

Still jealous! Nice model Robert!

Ironman One
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posted 12-06-2014 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder when/if Revell Monogram will issue a kit of the Orion and SLS?

Ronpur
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posted 12-11-2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finally finished working on the RealSpace Models Delta IV Heavy and EFT-1 kit. It was a lot of fun to build. I had to come up with a few details for the core connections and printed ULA and NASA logo decals, since they were not available when he made the kit.

He plans upgrades to the kit, with decals and an Orion spacecraft under the launch shroud.

 

history in miniature
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posted 12-12-2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great job and nice looking model!

apolloprojeckt
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posted 12-12-2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks great! Top done.

Ronpur
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posted 12-13-2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I forgot to mention it is 1/144th scale, so it is not as tall as Robert's model!

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