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Docdrew
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posted 12-21-2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Docdrew   Click Here to Email Docdrew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the story:
  • 9/5 -- received email reply
  • 9/23 -- notified me that wrong part was sent to Famemaster
  • 9/30 -- correct part mailed out (via turtle express)
  • 11/21 -- received part; in much better condition than original part; several minor scratches which really can't be seen when in place on rocket

Docdrew
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posted 12-24-2013 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Docdrew   Click Here to Email Docdrew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need some help on assembly of the third stage.

When you place the J-2 engine with LOX tank into the bottom of the stage it seems like it doesn't fit or lock into any particular place, i.e. you can rotate it any way you want. Is this true or am I missing something?

The top of the fuel tank (part 60) has two long stems (part 61) that extend downward toward the LOX tank. It is unclear if these need to be oriented in any particular way. When you place the top of the fuel tank into position the stems spread apart and slide along the side of the LOX tank. What are these, and should they be on the opposite side of the transparent window or the same side? Thank you.

Planetary
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posted 01-05-2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planetary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but on the last run of this model, the inaccurate third stage exterior has been corrected so that the main body part is smooth, not the ribbed Stringers running the entire length of the stage.

As seen in this photo, the Instrument Unit exterior is still wrong but it's not as egregious as issue as the whole stage having stringers like before.

sev8n
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posted 01-07-2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Planetary:
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but on the last run of this model, the inaccurate third stage exterior has been corrected so that the main body part is smooth, not the ribbed Stringers running the entire length of the stage.

I wonder if FameMaster would offer this corrected part to owners of the earlier release?

Alternatively, how hard would it be to remove the stringers from the original part and repaint?

mike_nz
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posted 01-08-2014 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mike_nz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I contacted them regarding this as soon as I received the model and noticed the error. They issued a replacement part as soon as the new parts were produced. I was very impressed with their prompt service and handling of it all. I think the email address I used was sales@famemaster.com. This was back in Jan 2012.

sev8n
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posted 01-09-2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mike, I will try contacting them.

Peter
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posted 01-09-2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In case anyone is looking... I just got one for $113.74 from ModelCars.com (plus got another 5% off using a coupon found on their site).

Shipping was not included in that price.

jjknap
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posted 01-09-2014 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjknap   Click Here to Email jjknap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the heads-up on the low price. I ordered one as well.

Kal-El
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posted 01-10-2014 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal-El     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info on the third stage. I need to check mine. I still have mine in the box. I did purchase mine around early 2012.

cspg
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posted 01-10-2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
In case anyone is looking... I just got one for $113.74 from ModelCars.com
Went to their website and ended up buying something else (and I really mean something else!) from another company via Amazon. You owe me $120.

Constellation One
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posted 01-11-2014 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Constellation One   Click Here to Email Constellation One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ordered on from modelcars last night. I've never used this company before. I hope they are legit.

It seems their price is significantly lower than other places. I checked out shipped to Ohio for $120. I hope I didn't get scammed.

Peter
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posted 01-11-2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are legit. I worried about the low price too. But it showed up this week and I'm currently building stage 2. Looks great.

tetrox
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posted 01-12-2014 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tetrox   Click Here to Email tetrox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peter I just ordered one from Modelcars like yourself, I was curious did yours arrive with the corrected third stage stringers? Many thanks.

Peter
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posted 01-12-2014 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, It looks just like the photo Planetary posted above.

sev8n
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posted 01-17-2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Docdrew:
The top of the fuel tank (part 60) has two long stems (part 61) that extend downward toward the LOX tank. It is unclear if these need to be oriented in any particular way. When you place the top of the fuel tank into position the stems spread apart and slide along the side of the LOX tank. What are these, and should they be on the opposite side of the transparent window or the same side?

If I understand your question I believe these are supposed to represent the LH2 propellant utilization mass sensor and flight instrumentation probes, this according to the David Weeks drawings. The lower ends are close to the tank wall and the tops are slanted towards the center of the tank. The horizontal "legs" are braces that attach to the tank wall and support the vertical probe.

As for the radial positions each is roughly opposite each vertical row of helium spheres. Unfortunately the entire third stage is incorrectly "clocked", I don't have my notes handy as to which way and how much it is off.

Docdrew
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posted 01-25-2014 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Docdrew   Click Here to Email Docdrew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I successfully completed this model today and am feeling pretty good about it since I haven't built a model in quite some time. Thanks to everyone who posted tips and answered my emails. A few comments:

While it's nice that Fame Master includes educational information in the assembly guide, it would be even better if they would label more parts with their official name and/or function, e.g. parts 56 and 57 -- helium spheres, or part 61 -- instrumentation probe/fuel level sensor.

I think that the way Fame Master designed the lunar module is incredible. It's amazing to see the finished product after assembling 33 small irregular pieces.

After final assembly there are two things that are a little disappointing: 1) No matter how much I adjust the launch escape rocket I can't get it to look perfectly straight from all directions, and 2) The words on the label of the base/stand are slightly misaligned because the letters on the left half are slightly lower than the letters on the right half.

the clocks running
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posted 01-26-2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Docdrew:
No matter how much I adjust the launch escape rocket I can't get it to look perfectly straight from all directions.
I found that by placing the Launch Escape Tower on fairly loose that it maintained a straight line. Be careful not to apply very much pressure when installing or it will break.

Planetary
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posted 08-27-2014 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planetary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some free time last weekend so I spent a couple evenings putting together my 4D Apollo Saturn V display. I did some very basic modifications and re-painting, mostly to do with the Apollo spacecraft itself.

I shaped and painted better windows on the CM and covered it with Bare Metal Chrome foil (as well as the aft end of the Service Module) and extensively repainted the LM as well as gold foiling the Descent Stage, all of which greatly adds to the overall look of the finished display with only a few hour's work.

I also repainted the inside orange tank domes w/Testors Metalizer Aluminum and Magnesium for the three stages as well as the SII heatshield. I left the outside upper tank domes on the SI and SII stages orange. Also, I fixed the "clocking/alignment" issue with the SIVB stage in relation to the rest of the stack by cutting out new notches on the bottom of the stage. I considered and may yet do so adding detail to the otherwise blank Boost Protective Cover.

The only unsolvable problem is that the LM cannot be properly oriented in it's shroud due to the space the attach points for the four panels take up inside. You pretty much have to turn the LM about 20 - 45 degrees for it to fit down in the shroud (the front of the LM should line up exactly with the back of the CSM).

It really builds into a great, reasonably accurate display and with a minimal amount of custom work and painting, can be made to look even more outstanding...

 photo 4DSaturnV12_zpsa78c32a3.jpg

 photo 4DSaturnV10_zps773bacea.jpg

 photo 4DSaturnV1_zps1a02c00e.jpg

 photo 4DSaturnV14_zpsab1f0b22.jpg

the clocks running
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posted 08-27-2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks Great!

I put bare metal foil on the CM. It worked out pretty well.

keymichael1855
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posted 08-28-2014 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, you have done some great modifications to make that model much more accurate — nice work! You mentioned about possibly adding some more detail to the smooth BPC. I don't know if it would interest you or not, but I have created a fully detailed BPC/LES at that scale that fits the CM perfectly.

The link to the matching LES tower is in the description. Just let me know if you have any questions. Keep up the good work!

Planetary
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posted 10-25-2014 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planetary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so I finally got around to ordering and including "keymichael1855's" Shapeways 3D printed LES and BPC parts (ultra frosted detail, by the way). These were my very first 3D printed parts I've worked with so I went for something not only easy but if I screwed them up, not a big dent on the wallet.

They are a *huge* upgrade over the featureless respective parts included with the FameMaster Saturn V.

I have posted more detailed thoughts about the parts and working them in the dedicated Michael Key thread.

But overall, I am very pleased with the product and will buy more 3D printed upgrade parts for my 1/96 and 1/72 Saturn kits in the near future. So here's what the FameMaster saturn looks like with the upgrade parts including a comparison of the original and new 3D printed upgrade parts:

bdipaolo
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posted 10-29-2014 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bdipaolo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planetary, your work is great. But everyone should know that Michael Key created (with some small input from me) on Shapeways a perfect 3D print of the CM, BPC and LES in 1:100 for this model that is a light year or a million ahead improvement to an otherwise great model. Get yours and be at peace with the cosmos.

keymichael1855
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posted 10-30-2014 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for keymichael1855   Click Here to Email keymichael1855     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barrett, Planetary did give me "props" for the printed parts in his post. I think he just used my user name instead of my real name. And you didn't have "small input," it was LARGE input! After all, you were the one that gave me accurate dimensions and test fit the parts for me, allowing me to offer the parts to others. If I had to buy every kit to test fit parts, I'd be broke!!! So thanks to everyone out there (there are several) who have helped me with producing upgrade parts!


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