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Topic: Help ID'ing X-15, Gemini, Apollo hardware
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stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2018 05:00 PM
I've just spent several days going through my collection, and I've found several items I have questions about. (Mostly "What?") I would greatly appreciate any help cS members could provide. I'll put each on separately because there will be so many photos. (On several of them, and on several of the shuttle-era pieces I'll be posting tomorrow, you'll see yellow tags attached with blue string. They were put there by space writer Phill Parker, who sold his collection back in 2013.) First, a part labeled "X-15." (They get easier to identify after this one.)
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stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2018 05:00 PM
Then, a two-way solenoid valve by Vacco Valve, with a "cure date" ending in '65 but an assembly date that could be '65, '66, or even '68. It is shockingly heavy. Vacco has been making valves for NASA since Gemini, including the fueling valves for the Saturn V.
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stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2018 05:01 PM
Now this one's a puzzler. I'll start by saying that it was lot 371 in the groundbreaking 1993 Superior Galleries space auction. Several other impressive lots in that auction were in similar displays, which makes me think that the consignor was knowledgeable and had quite a collection. It's a green bag, clearly labeled PLSS CABLE on one side, with two metal plates covering the other side, and a zipper along the middle. A long strip of Velcro takes up the side opposite the zipper, as if to hold it in place in the spacecraft during zero-G. A metal plate on the display case, made by the owner at some point, reads GEMINI PLSS CABLE COVER. But was anything during Gemini called the Personal Life Support System? Of course there were EVAs during Gemini, but those depended on the spacecraft for air through hoses. But if it's Apollo, what's up with the green color? Stenciled or stamped in black on the green bag is V36-601075.
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stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2018 05:02 PM
Note: this one has been identified by a cS member as one made for display, not one of the rarer ones sent to NASA.Astronaut Knife - M-1. The Case knife company made these for astronauts to carry on Apollo in case of a crash landing, but also made hundreds of extras which they sold in framed displays. I'd like to know if there's any way of knowing if mine was actually made for use by NASA. The fact that it's not in a frame doesn't mean anything - it could have just been taken out. But on every one of those framed displays that I can find online, the serial number is hard to read, while the rest of the writing is deep and clear. On mine, it's the opposite: After the Apollo 1 fire, the handles were made of aluminum, but before that they were white poly like on mine. (If you want to read more, go to this website and search for "NASA Knives." It's a long paragraph, but informative, with a couple of pictures. I don't mind if mine just came out of a display, but I thought it was worth exploring. |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2018 05:03 PM
Years ago I bought a painting of what appears to be a spacecraft starting a landing, and I wonder if anyone recognizes it from somewhere. And finally, what I think is a white room bootie, worn by ground support just outside the spacecraft on the launch pad. It's made of what seems to be beta cloth, but thick and strong enough to stand up on its own: I'd like to know if I'm correct about the where/who, and if someone can tell me the when. |
328KF Member Posts: 1250 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 07-01-2018 05:33 PM
I can offer some advice on the knife. The inscription and construction matches the publicly sold models. NASA-issued Case knives had the standard equipment serial numbers engraved. The one modification is the addition of the lanyard after removal from the display box. It's possible that if a makeshift sheath was ever used with it, that may have resulted in the wearing of the "mass produced" engraving while the individual edition number was more deeply engraved so held up better. Maybe try a search of eBay or other sites to see if that number has surfaced elsewhere for sale? |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-01-2018 05:44 PM
A solid answer already! The actually-made-for-NASA knives had the more detailed serial number (I should have realized or noticed that), and this one doesn't. Thank you! |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-04-2018 04:22 PM
Any thoughts, please, about the "PLSS CABLE" bag or the white bootie? |
Guswastheman Member Posts: 101 From: Gresham, OR Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 07-04-2018 05:35 PM
This may help on the PLSS Bag.Gemini 7 G5C IVA Spacesuit had the following: Life Support System (Primary) and Life Support System (Backup). Could the P stand for Primary? The green bag would indicate Gemini. |
space1 Member Posts: 857 From: Danville, Ohio Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 07-04-2018 06:57 PM
The green pouch might suggest Gemini, but the V36 part number and NAM (North American) quality control stamp guarantee that this is Apollo. Since it is not Beta cloth, it predates the Apollo 1 fire. |
NAAmodel#240 Member Posts: 314 From: Boston, Mass. Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 08-09-2018 03:02 PM
I led an effort in 1993 to find evidence of 66672, the X-15 lost in 1967. We were able to locate 18 pieces. These were evaluated by a NAA/NASA Rocket Shop tech who worked on the missing plane. Your first image doesn't look remotely like anything we found. I think it unlikely it was from that program. |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1939 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 03-28-2020 11:06 AM
About two years later, I just thought I'd bump this post up to see if anyone who didn't see it the first time might be able to help identify the: - part that was labeled "X-15";
- solenoid valve;
- white bootie; or
- subject of the painting.
Thanks for any details! |
Lou Chinal Member Posts: 1332 From: Staten Island, NY Registered: Jun 2007
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posted 03-31-2020 04:24 PM
Steve, I think the painting of the CM coming down is from The New York Times in 1962. The Sunday magazine section. |