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Altidude
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posted 08-29-2016 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a PPK that was flown on an Apollo mission. It was owned by Guenter Wendt and he stated that it was given to him after it was flown, but he did not remember which mission. He later used it on multiple missions.

Does anyone here have any input to be able to narrow down which mission this could be? By the way, there are no identifying marks that I can find. Thanks.

Chuckster01
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posted 08-30-2016 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it would seem the Guenter did not have the best memory for project items given to him. I also have one of his early mementos that even with the help of the cS community I never got a solid answer on.

It would seem many details on these mementos have been lost to time, but they're still awesome to have in the collection.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-30-2016 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Altidude:
He later used it on multiple missions.
To be clear, you mean (as Wendt wrote on the bag), as a white room equipment pouch — not flown aboard other Apollo missions. For others not familiar with it, Wendt certified the bag as follows:
It was flown on one mission, but which one and on what flight I do not remember.
As for the bag itself, the style of bag appears to differ from the other known examples of flown Apollo PPKs, in that it has a flap rather than being closed with a drawstring, or is it under the flap? Is there an ID tag under the flap, or some sign of one being removed?

Altidude
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posted 08-30-2016 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, that is the bag. There is evidence of a tag on the back, but I believe that it is blacked out and illegible. I will have to take another look at it.

I am in the process of deciding what things to begin framing and displaying. So, hopefully someone has some information about this. Hopefully, it is worthy of displaying.

By the way, he included a photo of an astronaut suiting up and he points to the leg of th A7L suit as the location the "PPK" came from. So I think that he may have gotten the item confused with an actual PPK.

Altidude
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posted 08-30-2016 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ken Havekotte
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posted 08-30-2016 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The bag in reference to here was acquired from Guenter in 2000 when I was at his home in Titusville, FL.

At the time, Guenter could not recall the details of the storage or equipment bag, and thought it could be an actual flown-used PPK from an Apollo lunar mission.

When examining the pouch, I knew it was not similar to known PPKs that flew, but I had the pad leader inscribe-write a few words recalling what he could recall about it on the bag itself.

As Robert has pointed out, though, it was more likely a storage or equipment container used by Guenter and his closeout crew in support of an Apollo crew of some sort atop Launch Complex 39's White Room.

Altidude
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posted 08-30-2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken, thanks for the information. I knew that this wasn't a typical PPK.

moonnut
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posted 08-30-2016 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would it be feasible that a possible x-ray technology could be used to read the numbers underneath the blacked out tag? If so, might be worth a shot.

Altidude
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posted 08-30-2016 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually own a c-arm, lol. I will see what I can find. Don't expect to see much, but you never know.

Philip
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posted 08-31-2016 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
B&W photo shows USMC Colonel/astronaut Jack R. Lousma suiting up... Skylab 3 mission in July 1973.

Altidude
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posted 09-01-2016 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Altidude   Click Here to Email Altidude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did a fluoroscopy image of the tag and it revealed no further information. Thanks for the suggestion.

SpaceAholic
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posted 09-01-2016 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which insurance provider will receive the bill for diagnostic image?

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