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blueangels1
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posted 05-20-2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blueangels1   Click Here to Email blueangels1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to ask the cS experts to take a look at these photos please. Back in the early 70's my uncle who worked as part of the space program at North American Rockwell in Downey, CA gave my cousin this toilet seat. After the passing of my uncle and cousin my aunt came across this as well as other Apollo era items.

I was hoping someone might have some information I can pass along to her. Looks to me to be a "prototype." The information molded into it reads: R36-60130 and below that is X142.

I appreciate all your information and help and it is always a pleasure to read and be apart of collectSPACE.

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posted 06-21-2012 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeshortstop   Click Here to Email mikeshortstop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a toilet seat given to me from ny Uncle who worked at North American Aviation.

It was to have been a prototype for the later Apollo Missions. Though it has a serial 3 with "R" on it, it could have been used for training, no. is R36-601310X142

It measures 7" across, 6" deep and has a 4" diameter opening, I've been told it could have been used during zero-g training. If anyone has seen or heard of this please respond.

Editor's note: blueangels1 and mikeshortstop are family members and are describing the same piece. Threads merged.

garymilgrom
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posted 06-21-2012 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike - welcome to this forum. You will find a wealth of information here.

Remember in microgravity (so called zero g) there is no need for traditional methods of eliminating waste. In fact such methods do not work as nothing "falls" down, or through, any opening.

Your piece may have been used in a ground based simulator, or perhaps it's a gag gift. Good luck finding it's history.

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posted 06-21-2012 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeshortstop   Click Here to Email mikeshortstop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, trust me, it was not a gag gift as my Aunt and Uncle were dedicated to the space program. Everything I was given from Apollo heat shield pieces to space flown hardware and patches, pictures, medals, is all real.

The story was the bag was to be taped to the seat and to the rear of the astronaut for a better seal on the skin for easier collection.

SpaceAholic
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posted 06-21-2012 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd focus my research on the Apollo Applications Program. Good luck

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 06-21-2012 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike, I think you may be correct in presuming this is a prototype toilet. The holes in the side may have been for some kind of airflow system to "aid use".

The seat does not look like that in this Skylab toilet photo. I suspect it was a development seat that evolved from Skylab with a view to use in the shuttle... also built by Rockwell.

The "gag" option suggested by Gary is not without foundation but I doubt a gag seat would include model/serial numbers.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-21-2012 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to a press release issued earlier this year, Beneke Magnolia, Inc. "was the exclusive supplier of toilet seats to NASA's Space Shuttle Program."

You might want to contact them, as they may be familiar with the history of their seat's development.

SpaceAholic
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posted 06-21-2012 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why send this guy on a wild goose chase? The part bears a CSM affiliated drawing number.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-21-2012 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because sometimes, when it comes down to producing very specific parts such as this, the manufacturer has someone working for them that not only knows the history of the part they are producing, but the history of the type of part in great detail.

I've been in touch over the years with several shuttle contractor workers who were very well versed on the heritage of what they were building extending as far back as Mercury.

But it was only a suggestion...

Sy Liebergot
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posted 06-21-2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick, Thanks for posting the pic of the Skylab WC. Though I've been looking for a Workshop pic, this should suffice for my Skylab lecture which is "in work."--Sy

Jim Behling
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posted 06-21-2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn't there suppose to be a toilet in the original plans for the Apollo CM?

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