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Tim Collins
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posted 12-29-2009 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Collins   Click Here to Email Tim Collins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a piece of Command Module telecommunications hardware I have (manufactured by Radiation, Inc for North American) there are a variety of inspection stamps. A number of these stampings include the characters MR, DR, and/or CR. For example, MR DR A132699-1, MR/DR S 005087-1, and CR INSP 55674.

Anyone have any insights into what these characters may stand for or signify?

space1
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posted 12-29-2009 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a definitive answer, only guesses. The MR and DR numbers may indicate the engineering changes incorporated into the item. INSP would indicate inspection or inspector. Not much, but I hope that helps.

Tim Collins
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posted 12-30-2009 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Collins   Click Here to Email Tim Collins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks John - appreciate your thoughts. Maybe then the R in MR and DR possibly stood for "Revision" (for different revision levels). I'll keep digging. Tim

nasa_pete
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posted 01-03-2010 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasa_pete   Click Here to Email nasa_pete     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am pretty sure the MR DR is Material Review Disposition Record, they are to do with the inspections carried out on the parts, the CR I am not entirely sure of though.

Tim Collins
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posted 01-05-2010 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Collins   Click Here to Email Tim Collins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Pete - You're correct. Based on your comments, I did some further searching and found listings of NASA abbreviations, and this one was included. Now I just need to find some references to my specific MRDR numbers (probably not very likely, but I'll do some digging). Thanks again. Tim

SpaceAholic
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posted 01-09-2010 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are alternative abbreviations noted within KLAB's Apollo Acronyms Guide.

SpaceAholic
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posted 01-10-2010 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's another clue: this shot from CM101 (Apollo 7) showing lower equipment bay, RJ/EC assembly to the right, Gyro Display Coupler to the left, with the empty slot apportioned for the Electronic Display Assembly which has been removed to facilitate repair of the cold plate.

Reviewing the NASA Acryonm list coupled with the photo evidence inclined to believe MR/DR equates to Malfunction Report/Discrepancy Record, with CR as Change Recommendation.

Tim Collins
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posted 01-15-2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim Collins   Click Here to Email Tim Collins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You make a good case Scott. One thing that keeps me wondering a bit though is that I seem to see the MR/DR designation on numerous assemblies. Perhaps they were all items that had "an issue" of some sort. Thanks for this insight. Tim

Al Sep
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posted 01-22-2010 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Al Sep   Click Here to Email Al Sep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For whatever it's worth, I came across this document, Apollo Lunar Excursion Module - August 1962, while searching for some LM assembly/checkout documentation, specifically, the "Stamp Catalog" appendix (PDF pages 237-245).

Editor's note: Document has been removed from NTRS due to export controls.

SpaceAholic
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posted 01-22-2010 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very useful reference... great find!

hidaleeho
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posted 01-24-2017 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hidaleeho   Click Here to Email hidaleeho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if there is any reference guide for the circular and triangle shaped acceptance stamps you see on items used in the Apollo program? If not, any information you all might have would be appreciated.

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neo1022
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posted 01-24-2017 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neo1022   Click Here to Email neo1022     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want an overview of these stamps, check out pp. 39-40 in Jonathan Ward's Countdown to a Moon Launch. He shows the main acceptance/rejection stamps, an explains their meaning and use in the processing workflow.

neo1022
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posted 01-25-2017 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neo1022   Click Here to Email neo1022     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Al Sep:
I came across this document...
Does anyone have a working link to the Apollo Lunar Excursion Module - August 1962?

hidaleeho
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posted 01-27-2017 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hidaleeho   Click Here to Email hidaleeho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Very informative. The article had a lot of other great information as well.

Do you know if QC would remove the stamps if at some point later the item was damaged, or if not, how that would be dealt with?

Jim Behling
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posted 01-27-2017 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no removing stamps. More paper would be written if the part was damaged and there would be stamps associated with that.

hidaleeho
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posted 01-28-2017 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hidaleeho   Click Here to Email hidaleeho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting, as I have an item that looks like the QC stamps have been removed. It has a tag that states received with id damage. All part number identification is intact, but QC stamps have been removed.

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