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liebeek
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posted 01-18-2011 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me something about the origin of the authentic cloth pieces that are on some of these astronaut cards from the Panini 2010 Century Collection? What are these pieces cut from?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-18-2011 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It look a while to find an example of the back of a card to see how the swatch was described, but for example, a Scott Carpenter card's material was described only as "an authentic item personally worn/used by Scott Carpenter."

No where does it indicate that the material flew in space or was even used while Carpenter was at NASA, so it could just be a shirt or other piece of personal clothing that Panini purchased and cut apart (the card states that the swatch was "obtained and... guaranteed by Panini America, Inc.").

xlsteve
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posted 01-18-2011 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xlsteve   Click Here to Email xlsteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a number of these up for auction. Some of which have a signature as well as the stamp/swatch. Anyone care to weigh on the desirability of these as space collectibles?

4allmankind
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posted 01-18-2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4allmankind   Click Here to Email 4allmankind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I own a few of them and the backs of them say the same thing as the Carpenter, Robert. Nothing from any specific event but they appear to be a cotton-like material from a collared 3-button shirt.

jam1970
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posted 01-18-2011 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jam1970   Click Here to Email jam1970     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have bought quite a few of these and yes they are just an old shirt they cut up (nothing special). The ones that are signed are the same card as the unsigned ones and they add a sticker with their signature on it. I find it amazing that they sell these in a box of 6 cards for $200 with a chance to find a nice piece. The best astronaut is the Alan Bean signed card. This is just another form of gambling, you are better off just buying the cards you want. Most have been going for less than $5 for the shirt cards and the signed ones $40.

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posted 01-18-2011 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pharoid   Click Here to Email pharoid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The astronaut signed cards are not on stickers. Looks like the autograph is on a plain white card along with a vintage space stamp. The whole thing is then inserted in a die-cut display.

Other non-astronaut signed cards are on stickers.

The signers include Walt Cunningham, Rusty Schweickart, Al Worden, Edgar Mitchell, Charlie Duke, Gene Kranz, Alan Bean, Sally Ride, Hoot Gibson, Bob Crippen, Barbara Morgan, Fred Gregory, Ed Gibson, Bill Pogue, Vance Brand, Kathryn Thornton, Richard Gordon, Scott Carpenter, Eileen Collins

generallou
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posted 06-13-2011 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for generallou   Click Here to Email generallou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought a Century Collection signed Scott Carpenter stamp card with a swatch of cloth in it. I know the cloth isn't space related but does anyone know what the cloth is? How about any of the others who are in the set? Any help appreciated!

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jvertrees
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posted 07-11-2011 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a couple of Panini cards from Skylab astronauts. The stamp included is the one of the Moon Rover. The card is such that the stamp is adhered to a plain white card but exposed. Does anyone think it would ruin the card's value if that stamp is carefully removed and replaced with a vintage 10 cent Skylab stamp?

jvertrees
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posted 07-12-2011 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A simple update to my last post. The back of the cards give the Scott's Catalog number for the vintage stamp displayed on the front. Clearly a bad idea to swap out a lunar surface stamp for the Skaylab stamp even on a Skylab astronaut's card.

jvertrees
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posted 07-21-2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got some good information from one of the astronauts involved with the cards.

The material in the cards is all from astronaut worn material. None is flown material. Most is even modern era from jackets or shirts worn at astronaut events such as astronaut encounter or charity golf outings.

One very interesting fact and something I did not know is some of the money raised by creating these cards was donated to the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation. So cash does go to a good cause and in the case of the signed cards you are assured of having an authentic signature.

mikepf
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posted 11-30-2012 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikepf   Click Here to Email mikepf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know anything about this card set? There are a number of astronaut cards with pieces of material inserted into the cards. I can't find any information about what the materials may be. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

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mikepf
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posted 11-30-2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikepf   Click Here to Email mikepf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert! I just knew there was something about this here on cS but couldn't find it.

John K. Rochester
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posted 01-22-2013 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John K. Rochester   Click Here to Email John K. Rochester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know what these swatches are? Flown, like in the shuttle bookmarks, or just personal items of the astronauts clothing...

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jvertrees
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posted 01-23-2013 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it from one of the astronauts included in the cards the material is from current day clothing that was worn at least once. His was a shirt worn once.

I do not believe any of the swatches are from flown or even on Earth training clothing. Novelty cards only.

Mike_The_First
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posted 10-31-2016 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_The_First   Click Here to Email Mike_The_First     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I'm looking at the "Astronaut Relic" cards from the Americana line and I'm seeing material cards for the likes of Gene Kranz, Alan Bean, Al Worden, Eileen Collins, etc.

The cards themselves only say that the material is guaranteed authentic but not where it's from. Assuming that it is, in fact, authentic, does anyone know what we're talking about here? Anything of significance, like something they wore around in their NASA days (or, in Gene's case, maybe one of his vests) or just a piece of a shirt that they wore to their nephew's barbecue one time in the 90s?

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denali414
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posted 10-26-2018 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone wants the checklists for the Panini trading cards:

2010 Century Collection Astronauts Stamp & Swatch checklist

  1. Scott Carpenter
  2. Edgar Mitchell
  3. Walt Cunningham
  4. Al Worden
  5. Eilen Collins
  6. Sally Ride
  7. Kathyrn Thornton
  8. Rusty Schweickart
  9. Gene Kranz
  10. Vance Brand
  11. Barbara Morgan
  12. Alan Bean
  13. Robert Crippen
  14. Dick Gordon
  15. Fred Gregory
  16. Hoot Gibson
  17. Ed Gibson
  18. Charlie Duke
  19. Bill Pogue
2012 Astronaut Materials Set checklist
  1. Al Worden #/ 249
  2. Alan Bean #/ 299
  3. Barbara Morgan #/ 135
  4. Bill Pogue #/ 249
  5. Charles Duke #/ 249
  6. Dick Gordon #/ 135
  7. Ed Gibson #/ 299
  8. Edgar Mitchell #/ 299
  9. Eileen Collins #/ 199
  10. Fred Gregory #/ 199
  11. Gene Kranz #/ 195
  12. Hoot Gibson #/ 199
  13. Jack Lousma #/ 499
  14. Jim Lovell #/ 499
  15. Kathryn Thornton #/ 199
  16. Robert Crippen #/ 499
  17. Sally Ride #/ 349
  18. Scott Carpenter #/ 149
  19. Vance Brand #/ 249
  20. Walt Cunningham #/ 199
2012 Astronaut Signatures Set checklist
  1. Al Worden #/ 99
  2. Alan Bean #/ 25
  3. Barbara Morgan #/ 79
  4. Bill Pogue #/ 49
  5. Charles Duke #/ 59
  6. Dick Gordon #/ 49
  7. Ed Gibson #/ 39
  8. Edgar Mitchell #/ 99
  9. Eileen Collins #/ 99
  10. Fred Gregory #/ 49
  11. Gene Kranz #/ 39
  12. Hoot Gibson #/ 99
  13. Jack Lousma #/ 99
  14. Jim Lovell #/ 25
  15. Kathryn Thornton #/ 7
  16. Robert Crippen #/ 99
  17. Sally Ride #/ 29
  18. Scott Carpenter #/ 99
  19. Vance Brand #/ 99
  20. Walt Cunningham #/ 49

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