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Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-19-2007 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10:56:20 is one of my favorite rare space books. It is such a visual treat to flip through its pages, as both its physical and page layout are stunning.

You know you have something special from the moment you pick it up and your hands run across the embossed lunar surface dust jacket.

ea757grrl
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posted 07-19-2007 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd read bits and pieces about that book before I was lucky enough to get my copy last year, but, wow, a lot of care and craftsmanship went into it. It's a real memento of an age when CBS was *very* conscious of its style and design, and on this book the network really had all the stops pulled out.

For me (as a broadcasting historian) it was made even more special when I found that my copy still had its letter in front, complete with a small card with William S. Paley's name printed on it.

It is a truly magnificent book. I cherish my copy, and only wish it wasn't so blasted hard to find.

Mike Dixon
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posted 07-20-2007 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sheesh ... you're not wrong about 10:56:20.

Searching for that book and prices up near $700.

ea757grrl
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posted 07-20-2007 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Dixon:
Sheesh ... you're not wrong about 10:56:20.

Last year when I was shopping for mine, the usual online OOP sources I use (alibris, abebooks.com among others) was showing decent-condition copies for in the $120 US range. Out of desperation I did a Google search and found an online antiques shop that had a copy for $85 or so. The dust jacket on mine is worn and the front cover has a very subtle bow to it, but the inside is as good as the day it was printed.

There are copies out there that can be had relatively affordably; you just have to look for them, and strike when you find one you can afford. As I wrote earlier, I really wish it had been made more widely available because it is an amazing book, a chronicle of mankind's greatest adventure and a tribute to all the hard work that the television industry put in so the folks back home could watch it happen. There are some great "little picture" stories told in it, my favorite being how the Army Signal Corps routed the WCBS/New York feed (sans commercials) through Fort Richardson so people in Alaska could watch the mission happen.

Matt T
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posted 07-20-2007 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt T   Click Here to Email Matt T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Several copies here for $100 to $200.

spacecraft guy
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posted 07-22-2007 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got my copy in 1971 - and wish I had the good sense as a child not to carry it around with me for weeks.

Still have it, but without the dust jacket and it's in fair shape...

ea757grrl
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posted 07-22-2007 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To help me out a bit with some backstory, do you remember how you got it (i.e., was it a bookstore, or a gift from someone with connections to a CBS affiliate, or some other means)? I'm trying to get an image of how widely available it was, and if it was something that was available to the general public like any other book, or if it was something that was distributed only via CBS.

I have a few other network-produced volumes in my collection, and though some were obviously sold via bookstores (i.e., NBC's "Seventy Hours and Thirty Minutes" about NBC's coverage of the JFK assassination), I have a few other volumes in my collection that do much the same as "10:56:20" but appear to have been produced for the affiliates and other members of the network family. I'm trying to figure out where "10:56:20" fits in on that scale.

[ON EDIT: In reviewing Alfred R. Hogan's master's thesis on "Televising The Space Age," I found the following statement in regards to "10:56:20": "About 20,000 copies were printed and distributed to NASA leaders, U.S. members of Congress, foreign heads of state, college libraries, and others."]

Regardless, thanks in advance for your help and your recollections!

Andy McCulley
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posted 07-24-2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andy McCulley   Click Here to Email Andy McCulley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because '...10:56:20...' was a limited edition book, did they all come with a thank you note addressed to someone and signed by Salent?

ea757grrl
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posted 07-24-2007 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who don't know, Richard "Dick" Salant was the longtime president of CBS News -- if I recall correctly, from 1965-81 or thereabouts.

spacecraft guy
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posted 07-25-2007 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ea757grrl:
To help me out a bit with some backstory, do you remember how you got it (i.e., was it a bookstore, or a gift from someone with connections to a CBS affiliate, or some other means)?
Hope this helps -

I received it 1971 when I was 11 years old, given to me an "aunt" (close friend of my parents) as our family was helping her pack up her belongings after her divorce. Her husband was a childhood friend of my father's, and during the flight of Apollo 11 he decided that he wanted to join in (cash in on)the "excitement of the mission" by selling jars of "Moon Dust" in Central Park in New York (and any store in New York City he could convince to carry it)just after the landing. He mixed up a concoction in his garage that he thought lunar soil might look like, after I showed him a photo from the lunar surface from Surveyor after it had dug a trench into the surface. He had some "official" looking labels made that we all spent hours sticking on small jars, and apponted me the "technical advisor" for the project. I had pointed out to him that this wasn't exactly honest, but my father explained that after coping with a long bout of rheumatic fever (remember, this was 1969)they were in pretty serious financial trouble, so we should do our best to help.

The story was that someone saw a dusty jar of "Moon Dust" on a store shelf in Manhattan sometime in 1970 and arranged a swap - a copy of the book for a case of "Moon Dust." My uncle got the book, but since I was the "technical advisor," my aunt thought I should have it. That's how I got it. My uncle, as far as I know, didn't have any CBS connections - he, along with my father were elevator constructors in New York during the 1960s.

And I still have a jar of "Moon Dust."

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posted 07-25-2007 03:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a few photos of 10:56:20 on my site.

I do have the business card and letter that came with it.

Andy McCulley
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posted 07-25-2007 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andy McCulley   Click Here to Email Andy McCulley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The note does appear to be an original note with original signature. It is in an envelope attached to the inside of the front cover. Judging by the note, the book was sent separately and the note was attached after the book was received.

The seller stated that the book had been a donation to the library that they didn't need and were selling it as a fund raiser for the library.

They believe that Mr. Offield was a geologist at the U.S. Geological Survey.

I hope this helps.

ea757grrl
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posted 10-26-2008 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another development in the book thread worth noting: Lou Dorfsman, the CBS design chief who oversaw the production of 10:56:20 PM 7/20/69, has died. The New York Times obit mentions the volume:
To celebrate the first landing on the moon, (CBS President Frank) Stanton proposed a limited-edition book, which Mr. Dorfsman designed with a special cover embossed to look and feel like the lunar surface. This and other promotional pieces set a standard for broadcast advertising.

Jay Chladek
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posted 10-26-2008 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They talked about Lou on CBS Sunday Morning today. He was a respected graphic artist and probably his most famous work (aside from the work he did on CBS' Apollo coverage) was the design of the CBS type face and logos still used today. Quite fascinating to hear about the guy in fact.

MrSpace86
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posted 10-27-2008 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received this book a few years ago from my parents for Christmas. While I thought the book had an odd layout to it (the screenshots and such) I found it really interesting and appreciated it. My parents said they saw it and decided to purchase it because it was different from all the other books in my collection.

Now reading this thread, I see it is a desired collectible. My book is in good shape, the dust jacket is a little worn, but it still has the certificate and business card. I am really excited to have such a gem in my collection.

Would it be wrong (as in degrade the value) if either (or both) Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins signed the book?

ea757grrl
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posted 10-29-2008 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MrSpace86:
Would it be wrong (as in degrade the value) if either (or both) Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins signed the book?

I wouldn't really see harm in having them sign it; it's about Apollo 11, after all, and while it's a rare book, there are enough copies of it that it's not irreplaceable. I personally think it would enhance the value a little, but maybe that's just me.

(Now, imagine a copy of "10:56:20" signed by Walter Cronkite!)

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posted 08-27-2010 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, after basically three years of hunting for 10:56:20 since I learned of its existence on this thread, I finally added it to my collection. In the interim, every copy I'd seen available was either too expensive or not in good enough condition (sometimes both!) to be worthwhile.

Then, last week, I got an email catalog update from Boggs Spacebooks that listed a "fine w/very good DJ" copy for $165. I'd bought from Don & Tamara before, and I knew I could rely on them to deal fairly and not misrepresent the condition of the book. Given what I'd seen previously, I figured this was about as good a balance between condition and price as I was likely to find, so I pulled the trigger.

Got it today, and I wasn't disappointed. Casually leafing through it, I can see why it's so sought-after. This is a snapshot of a seminal moment in history, one that I was born too late to witness. From the transcripts of Cronkite, Schirra, & co.'s actual coverage, to accounts of the atmosphere in the studio as events unfolded, to CBS correspondents' reportage of the reaction in other nations around the world, from the impressions of various "personalities" such as Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Arthur C. Clarke, and Ray Bradbury to those of an American soldier in Vietnam...it's just magical. And it makes me wonder if it's reasonable, or even possible, to be nostalgic for a time and place one never actually experienced.

(On a less "heavy" note, I couldn't help but wonder how the founder of Ms. magazine might have felt about being quoted as "Miss Steinem." I suspect that the Mad Men-era boys might have been getting one of their last licks in with that.)

Browsing 10:56:20 is, ultimately, a bittersweet experience. It simultaneously transmits the euphoria of being witness to one of humanity's singular achievements, and yet it makes me all the more melancholy at the increasingly remote possibility that I'll live to see it repeated.

Side note: My copy includes both the CBS introductory note and the attached business card of Richard W. Jencks, President, CBS/Broadcast Group. That makes at least three CBS executives whose cards I've known to be included with this book.

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posted 08-27-2010 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ea757grrl:
(Now, imagine a copy of "10:56:20" signed by Walter Cronkite!)

Actually, mine is signed by Cronkite; when he saw it his comment was "That's one of the best things we ever did."

Now, my question is, who has a copy signed by Dorfsman?

J.L
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posted 08-27-2010 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.L   Click Here to Email J.L     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Go4Launch:
Actually, mine is signed by Cronkite; when he saw it his comment was "That's one of the best things we ever did."
Show off!

crash
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posted 02-27-2012 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash   Click Here to Email crash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bit late to the party but I have just got hold of a very nice copy of this book at a great price. I was very surprised to see that the letter was still inside. Attached to that is the business card of Robert D Wood, President, CBS Television Network.
So that's at least five different cards included with this limited edition book.
  • Salant
  • Paley
  • Jenks
  • Stanton
  • Brown

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posted 02-27-2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have two copies: one in very good condition, bought for around $15 many years ago, and the other a 'readable' copy in fair condition but with Cronkite's signature-bought at the $1.00 book stall at Strand's in NYC!

crash
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posted 02-27-2012 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash   Click Here to Email crash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
$1.00! Signed! Okay, I thought I got a bargain. Good job.

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posted 03-21-2012 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also a copy out there with a business card fro Arthur Taylor president of CBS

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