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posted 02-19-2011 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a subject that's been mentioned before but examples keep cropping up...

If you acquire an item with one or more vintage signatures on it and want to complete it with modern signatures via signing events I would strongly advise against adding extra inscriptions such as mission names, assignments, dates etc, unless the vintage signatures already have them.

For example if you have a nice photo from the Apollo 11 mission which has been signed by Armstrong and you want to add Collins and Aldrin it may be tempting to have them add "Apollo 11 LMP" and "Apollo XI CMP" after their names but it just looks completely out of place on a crew signed item.

Here's an example from the latest RRAuction.

It's still a great signed piece but, at least in my opinion, it would have looked much neater without the Apollo 11 inscriptions after the Aldrin and Collins signatures.

They would never have signed like that back in 1969, especially not on a picture from Apollo 11, signed only by Apollo 11 crew members, and with the words Apollo 11 printed boldly across the top of the item. Having them each add Apollo 11 as well just looks daft.

At least this one hasn't gone the whole hog and had Aldrin add "MAGNIFICENT DESOLATION" across it in silver pen.

Sometimes less really is more.

mjanovec
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posted 02-19-2011 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree. The photo, as it was, is ripe with clues that it's the Apollo 11 crew (the banner at the top, Armstrong's inscription, the photo itself). There really was no need to have Aldrin and Collins write "Apollo XI" under their signatures.

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posted 02-19-2011 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't seem to bother the bidders ...

JasonB
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posted 02-19-2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually its the "Florence & Ida" part that would bother me.

I dont see a problem with them adding it under their signatures. It looks nice to me. Its just a byproduct of high signature prices. If your paying $300-400 and can add a mission inscription fairly cheaply most people will do it. People just want to get the most for their money. It may be unnecessary but its not like its all over the piece or they wrote something ridiculous on it.

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posted 02-19-2011 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Over $3000 in bids. Wow. I'm not sure I'd go that high with a Neil that appears to be fading fast. You'd never be able to display that anywhere if you had any hope of keeping the Neil viable.

DSeuss5490
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posted 02-19-2011 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DSeuss5490   Click Here to Email DSeuss5490     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's a nice piece. And like anything else you need to be careful where it's displayed. the other piece in the R&R auction signed by the crew has fared much worse.

mjanovec
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posted 02-19-2011 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It must be the Florence Henderson aspect to this piece that is getting everyone excited.

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