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Robert Pearlman
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NASA release
NASA Seeks Input from Potential Partners on Next Generation Astromobile

When astronauts journey to the Moon aboard the Orion spacecraft and Space Launch System (SLS) rocket beginning with the Artemis II mission, they will travel by more traditional ground transport as they head to the launch pad to board their spacecraft. NASA is seeking input from industry through a Request for Information on the opportunity for private companies to work with NASA and either provide a new vehicle to serve as the Artemis crew transportation vehicle or refurbish one of NASA's heritage vehicles to carry intrepid explorers to the launch pad ahead of their mission.

NASA is seeking a partner to build upon its heritage while modernizing for a new generation. Since 1984, each shuttle crew traveled the nine-mile stretch of road from astronaut crew quarters to the launch pad, aboard the Astrovan. The sight of the Astrovan's gleaming silver exterior and bold NASA emblem evoked pride and excitement in those who watched it wind toward the launch pad.

The proposals should be unique, embrace new technology, and visually embody Artemis to the public. The vehicle will need to seat eight, including four fully suited crewmembers. Through this partnership, the agency will engage the Artemis generation from ride-out to touch-down, while inspiring the next wave of explorers.

With Artemis, NASA will land the first woman and the first person of color on the lunar surface and establish long-term exploration at the Moon in preparation for human missions to Mars. SLS and Orion, along with the commercial human landing system and the Gateway in orbit around the Moon, are NASA's backbone for deep space exploration.

Responses are due Friday, Oct. 22. To find out more about how you can help in this Artemis crew transportation effort, go here.

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Going Electric: NASA selected electric-truck maker Canoo to build vehicles to carry astronauts to the launchpad for upcoming missions to the moon and Mars.
Under the agreement, Canoo would manufacture at least one vehicle to carry astronauts in Artemis missions a short distance from a preparation building to the launchpad during dress rehearsals and on launch day, according to an earlier solicitation. The agency requested that the vehicle have no emissions, have a minimum range of 50 miles (80 kilometers) and seat eight people.

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Artemis Astronauts Will Ride in Style in New Crew Transportation Vehicles

When astronauts leave their crew quarters at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida for their lunar mission, NASA's Artemis II crew will ride in a new set of wheels: A fleet of shiny crew transportation vehicles provided by Canoo Technologies Inc., will take them to Launch Pad 39B for their historic ride aboard the Space Launch System rocket and Orion spacecraft.

Above: Futuristic transports with pod-shaped exteriors will carry NASA's Artemis II astronauts from their crew quarters to Launch Pad 39 B at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The vehicles will be designed to take the fully suited astronauts, their support team, and their equipment on the nine-mile stretch of road from the Neil Armstrong Operations and Checkout Building to the launch pad. (Canoo)

The fleet will consist of three vehicles designed to take the fully suited astronauts, their support team, and their equipment on the nine-mile stretch of road from the Neil Armstrong Operations and Checkout Building to the launch pad. The new transports will be based on the company's all-electric LV models, customized for NASA's unique needs. For example, the vehicles are required to seat eight, including four fully suited crew members.

The futuristic transports with pod-shaped exteriors will be an environmentally friendly solution, using zero-emissions technology for the next generation of explorers. They are replacing the agency's Astrovan fleet, the gleaming silver 1983 Airstream vehicles that carried space shuttle crews to the launch pad.

The most visible use of the Artemis crew transportation vehicles will be to carry crew from the Astronaut Crew Quarters to Launch Pad 39B. However, the vehicles also will be used to support other prelaunch operations as well as training and launch countdown rehearsal tests. Canoo will deliver the fleet to the spaceport no later than June 2023 to support these operations.

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Looks awesome; too bad the space shuttle-era Astrovan was retired at the Atlantis shuttle display.

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Canoo Technologies, the electric vehicle company that won the NASA contract to provide a modern version of the "Astrovan," warned May 10 it may soon run out of money, reports SpaceNews.
In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission May 10, Canoo Technologies issued what is known as a "going concern" warning because of continued losses. The company reported a net loss of $125.4 million in the first quarter and had $104.9 million of cash available at the end of the quarter.

"We believe substantial doubt exists about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern for twelve months from the date of issuance of our financial statements," Canoo stated in the filing.

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NASA photo release (credit NASA/Kim Shiflett)
Artemis II CTV Demo

Several concept designs for Artemis crew transportation vehicles (CTV) lined up in the transfer aisle of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida on May 11, 2022. Canoo Technologies was awarded a contract to design and provide the next generation of CTVs for the Artemis crewed missions.

Representatives with Canoo were at the spaceport demonstrating the environmentally friendly fleet of vehicles.

Technicians from Johnson Space Center, dressed in flight suits, secured themselves inside one of the prototypes at the Neil Armstrong Operations and Checkout Building. The CTVs then drove out to Launch Complex 39B.

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posted 06-17-2022 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why go for the Canoo, instead of the Airstream vans; similar to the Starliner astrovan?

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NASA's requirements were in accordance with the executive order on "Strengthening American Leadership in Clean Cars and Trucks."
The Artemis CTV shall be a zero-emission vehicle, including battery-electric, plug-in hybrid electric, or fuel cell electric.
As for Airstream, it is not known if they responded to NASA's solicitation.

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From NASA's Exploration Ground Systems (via Twitter):
Artemis launch director Charlie Blackwell-Thompson, assistant launch director Jeremy Graeber and NASA astronaut Doug Wheelock met with representatives from Canoo Technologies on April 26 to test drive the Crew Transportation Vehicles for Artemis II at the company's research and development facility in California.

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NASA's new Artemis 'astrovans' arrive for use by moon-bound crews

Attention Artemis astronauts, your new rides to the launch pad have arrived.

Canoo Technologies on Tuesday (July 11) delivered three specially-designed, fully-electric crew transportation vehicles (CTV) to NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The new trio of "astrovans" will enter service as soon as late-2024, when the four astronauts assigned to NASA's Artemis II mission launch on the first crewed mission to fly around the moon in more than 50 years.

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posted 07-17-2023 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand why NASA went for the egg-shaped vehicles instead of the vans...

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Interesting that they used a low-budget, blow-up paint booth! I have considered trying out one those but wasn't too sure of how well they could evacuate the overspray. They must do a pretty good job.

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posted 08-15-2023 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon Eliot Reade   Click Here to Email Gordon Eliot Reade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's very nice but I can't look at those vehicles without thinking of the new all electric Volkswagen ID Buzz.

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posted 08-17-2023 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has the Artemis-II crew drove in these vehicles during their visit at KSC?

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posted 08-17-2023 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon Eliot Reade   Click Here to Email Gordon Eliot Reade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know but that brings up another question. Is the Artemis II Astrovan street legal? If not NASA and the tax payers would've been better served by using the new electric VW Van.

Robert Pearlman
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Canoo's vehicles are street legal but I fail to see why that is concern for NASA. Regardless of what model or era, the crew transports have always been restricted to use within the confines of Kennedy Space Center and Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.

NASA could only choose from the companies that submitted bids to build the new crew transport vehicles. There has been no indication from VW that it submitted its new van or any other vehicle.

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The Artemis II crew took part in a Day of Launch Demonstration Test (ISVV-A1) on Wednesday (Sept. 20), including boarding the crew transport vehicles for a ride out to Pad 39B.

Photos credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett/Frank Michaux

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From NASA's Exploration Ground Systems (via X):
Detailed views of one of NASA's Artemis crew transportation vehicles, currently being debuted to the public at the US Grand Prix Formula 1 race in Austin, TX.

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