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zee_aladdin
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posted 06-20-2005 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zee_aladdin   Click Here to Email zee_aladdin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I arrived in Cleveland OHIO for business today and I picked up TRAVELHOST magazine, June/July 2005 Issue. On page 40, there was a section entitled 'OHIO FACTS & TRIVIA'.

It listed the 7 presidents that were born in OHIO. It also mentioned the following people as 'WELL-KNOW Personalities'who were born in Ohio: Steven Spielberg, Paul newman, Annie Oakley, Arsenio Hall & Clark Gable. The article also mentioned Senator John Glenn and all of his accomplishments.

However, there was NO MENTION of Neil Armstrong AT ALL !!! I was very surprised and DISAPPOINTED.

What do you think ???

collshubby
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posted 06-20-2005 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for collshubby   Click Here to Email collshubby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if I had to choose between a mediocre actor and failed talk show host like Arsenio Hall and the first man to set foot on the Moon...

...I would have to go with the first man to set foot on the Moon.

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muirfield
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posted 06-20-2005 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for muirfield   Click Here to Email muirfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Neil Armstrong really is concerned about getting his name back in the news, maybe he should consider hosting a talk show. Something like a "Regis and Kelly", but instead "Neil and Buzz"..

DavidH
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posted 06-21-2005 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidH   Click Here to Email DavidH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Better yet, a reality show -- I would so tune in every week for Survivor with the Apollo-era astronauts!

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Duke Of URL
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posted 06-22-2005 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neil who?

cfreeze79
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posted 06-22-2005 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I'm surprised by is how it didn't mention how Ohio didn't become a state until 1953!

Ben
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posted 06-22-2005 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohio gained statehood in 1803.

Or am I missing the joke :-)

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posted 06-22-2005 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, depending on your source...

When Ohio was set to celebrate its 150th anniversary, someone realized it had never been formally admitted to the Union. So, in 1953, the 83rd Congress passed Public Law 204 to admit Ohio as a state, and made the law retroactive to 1803, 150 years "ex post facto".

But, the U.S. Constitution forbades "ex post facto" laws... So?!

This is one of my favorite bits of trivia to drop at a party.

Aztecdoug
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posted 06-22-2005 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cfreeze79:
[B] someone realized it had never been formally admitted to the Union. So, in 1953, the 83rd Congress passed Public Law 204 to admit Ohio as a state, and made the law retroactive to 1803, 150 years "ex post facto".

But, the U.S. Constitution forbades "ex post facto" laws... So?!
B]


So.... Neil Armstrong is not really a citizen of the United States... nor is John Glenn etc.?

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cfreeze79
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posted 06-22-2005 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you're born in a U.S. possessions, I'm pretty sure you're still a citizen, especially if the possession becomes a state later.

Ben
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posted 06-22-2005 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does that mean there will be two Ohio State Quarters :-D

That reminds me of another trivia question:

Who is the only presidential candidate (of the 20th century, to set aside our colonial forefathers) that was not born in the United States?

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posted 06-22-2005 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few years ago the new York Legislature discovered Albany had never been formally designated state capital.

So, in between jacking up taxes they passed a law making Honolulu state capital of New York.

We pay those gozzle heads to do stuff like that, too.

My grandmother was born in Italy but was aa American citizen at birth. However, I hold dual American/Italian citizenship because my Grandfather didn't renounce his allegiance to Victor Emmanuel II until after my mother was born.

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posted 06-22-2005 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ben:

Who is the only presidential candidate (of the 20th century, to set aside our colonial forefathers) that was not born in the United States?


George Romney. Born in Mexico.

All of our presidential candidates beside Romney were born in the US, but the last president not born a citizen was Andrew Jackson. He was born a subject of King George III.

[This message has been edited by Duke Of URL (edited June 22, 2005).]

zee_aladdin
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posted 06-22-2005 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zee_aladdin   Click Here to Email zee_aladdin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WELL ... the fact that Neil Amrstrong is not mentioned in the TRAVELHOST magazine as an important figure/personality shows how much TIMES have changed ....

If Neil decides to be more outgoing, I am pretty sure things will change DRAMATICALLY....

who knows ... Miracles Can Happen !

Ben
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posted 06-22-2005 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I would say wrong on two counts, but...

George Romney was only seeking the nomination (and never got it). By candidate I meant in the running on election day. If by definition candidate means sought to become president, then I phrased wrong, and apoligize.

The question I asked was the Final on Jeopardy once, but I may be wrong about the phrasing they had for it. How about "only presidential nominee" not born in the US [20th century]?

Aside from that, Romney isn't the only one ;-)

Second guess?

[This message has been edited by Ben (edited June 22, 2005).]

FFrench
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posted 06-23-2005 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ben:
George Romney was only seeking the nomination (and never got it). By candidate I meant in the running on election day.

He doesn't meet your definition either, but it's also interesting that John McCain, expected to make a strong running for the 2008 presidency, was born in the Panama Canal Zone while his father was stationed there in the Navy - so was technically not born in the United States. However my understanding is that he is a "a natural born Citizen" and thus not barred under article 2 of the constitution from becoming President.

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posted 06-23-2005 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...but I think you may be talking about Barry Goldwater, the 1964 Republican candidate.

He was born in the Arizona Territory in 1909, and Arizona did not become the 48th state until February 1912. So if you are being REALLY technical, he was not US-born...

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posted 06-23-2005 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.. and perhaps George Dubya was outside the US when he was "born again," and so should be removed from office as ineligible for Presidency too...

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posted 06-23-2005 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for collshubby   Click Here to Email collshubby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where was Neil's father/mother born? If one of them was born a U.S. citizen, outside of Ohio, then Neil is a citizen regardless of where he was born.

This is how it worked with my son, who was born in Australia. He has duel citizenship.

In a way, this may make Buzz happy. He could technically claim that even though he was not the first man to set foot on the Moon, he was the first American!

Ah, the technicalities of law. Mind boggling.

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Ben
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posted 06-23-2005 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Goldwater, born in Arizona before it was a state :-)

I think being born on military bases makes you a citizen(?), but I'm not sure. Some astronauts were born in that respect.

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posted 06-23-2005 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thump   Click Here to Email thump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ben:
Yep, Goldwater, born in Arizona before it was a state :-)

I think being born on military bases makes you a citizen(?), but I'm not sure. Some astronauts were born in that respect.



Yes military bases in foreign countries are still considered US soil, same as embassies in foreign countries, ie when I go to the British Embassy in Wash DC, when I enter their "compound" I'm on their soil.

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posted 06-23-2005 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, McCain was born in a Naval Hospital at Coco Solo Naval Air Station, so most likely within the base and therefore technically "US soil," if not technically within the actual "United States."

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