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Topic: Armstrong Not mentioned in TravelHost !
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zee_aladdin Member Posts: 781 From: California Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-20-2005 04:02 PM
I arrived in Cleveland OHIO for business today and I picked up TRAVELHOST magazine, June/July 2005 Issue. On page 40, there was a section entitled 'OHIO FACTS & TRIVIA'. It listed the 7 presidents that were born in OHIO. It also mentioned the following people as 'WELL-KNOW Personalities'who were born in Ohio: Steven Spielberg, Paul newman, Annie Oakley, Arsenio Hall & Clark Gable. The article also mentioned Senator John Glenn and all of his accomplishments. However, there was NO MENTION of Neil Armstrong AT ALL !!! I was very surprised and DISAPPOINTED. What do you think ??? |
collshubby Member Posts: 591 From: Madisonville, Louisiana Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-20-2005 04:25 PM
Well, if I had to choose between a mediocre actor and failed talk show host like Arsenio Hall and the first man to set foot on the Moon......I would have to go with the first man to set foot on the Moon. ------------------ Brian Peter 385th Bombardment Group B-17 Bomber "War Horse" http://warhorse.omegappg.com |
muirfield Member Posts: 52 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 06-20-2005 04:57 PM
If Neil Armstrong really is concerned about getting his name back in the news, maybe he should consider hosting a talk show. Something like a "Regis and Kelly", but instead "Neil and Buzz".. |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 06-21-2005 10:02 AM
Better yet, a reality show -- I would so tune in every week for Survivor with the Apollo-era astronauts!------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
Duke Of URL Member Posts: 1316 From: Syracuse, NY Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 06-22-2005 07:21 PM
Neil who? |
cfreeze79 Member Posts: 455 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 07:45 PM
What I'm surprised by is how it didn't mention how Ohio didn't become a state until 1953! |
Ben Member Posts: 1896 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 08:43 PM
Ohio gained statehood in 1803.Or am I missing the joke :-) |
cfreeze79 Member Posts: 455 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 09:27 PM
Well, depending on your source...When Ohio was set to celebrate its 150th anniversary, someone realized it had never been formally admitted to the Union. So, in 1953, the 83rd Congress passed Public Law 204 to admit Ohio as a state, and made the law retroactive to 1803, 150 years "ex post facto". But, the U.S. Constitution forbades "ex post facto" laws... So?! This is one of my favorite bits of trivia to drop at a party. |
Aztecdoug Member Posts: 1405 From: Huntington Beach Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 09:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by cfreeze79: [B] someone realized it had never been formally admitted to the Union. So, in 1953, the 83rd Congress passed Public Law 204 to admit Ohio as a state, and made the law retroactive to 1803, 150 years "ex post facto".But, the U.S. Constitution forbades "ex post facto" laws... So?! B]
So.... Neil Armstrong is not really a citizen of the United States... nor is John Glenn etc.?
------------------ Kind Regards Douglas Henry Enjoy yourself and have fun.... it is only a hobby! http://home.earthlink.net/~aztecdoug/ |
cfreeze79 Member Posts: 455 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 09:42 PM
Well, if you're born in a U.S. possessions, I'm pretty sure you're still a citizen, especially if the possession becomes a state later. |
Ben Member Posts: 1896 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 09:47 PM
Does that mean there will be two Ohio State Quarters :-DThat reminds me of another trivia question: Who is the only presidential candidate (of the 20th century, to set aside our colonial forefathers) that was not born in the United States? |
Duke Of URL Member Posts: 1316 From: Syracuse, NY Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 06-22-2005 11:11 PM
A few years ago the new York Legislature discovered Albany had never been formally designated state capital.So, in between jacking up taxes they passed a law making Honolulu state capital of New York. We pay those gozzle heads to do stuff like that, too. My grandmother was born in Italy but was aa American citizen at birth. However, I hold dual American/Italian citizenship because my Grandfather didn't renounce his allegiance to Victor Emmanuel II until after my mother was born. |
Duke Of URL Member Posts: 1316 From: Syracuse, NY Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 06-22-2005 11:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ben:
Who is the only presidential candidate (of the 20th century, to set aside our colonial forefathers) that was not born in the United States?
George Romney. Born in Mexico. All of our presidential candidates beside Romney were born in the US, but the last president not born a citizen was Andrew Jackson. He was born a subject of King George III. [This message has been edited by Duke Of URL (edited June 22, 2005).] |
zee_aladdin Member Posts: 781 From: California Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-22-2005 11:19 PM
WELL ... the fact that Neil Amrstrong is not mentioned in the TRAVELHOST magazine as an important figure/personality shows how much TIMES have changed ....If Neil decides to be more outgoing, I am pretty sure things will change DRAMATICALLY.... who knows ... Miracles Can Happen ! |
Ben Member Posts: 1896 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-22-2005 11:20 PM
Well I would say wrong on two counts, but... George Romney was only seeking the nomination (and never got it). By candidate I meant in the running on election day. If by definition candidate means sought to become president, then I phrased wrong, and apoligize. The question I asked was the Final on Jeopardy once, but I may be wrong about the phrasing they had for it. How about "only presidential nominee" not born in the US [20th century]? Aside from that, Romney isn't the only one ;-) Second guess? [This message has been edited by Ben (edited June 22, 2005).] |
FFrench Member Posts: 3161 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-23-2005 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ben: George Romney was only seeking the nomination (and never got it). By candidate I meant in the running on election day.
He doesn't meet your definition either, but it's also interesting that John McCain, expected to make a strong running for the 2008 presidency, was born in the Panama Canal Zone while his father was stationed there in the Navy - so was technically not born in the United States. However my understanding is that he is a "a natural born Citizen" and thus not barred under article 2 of the constitution from becoming President. FF
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FFrench Member Posts: 3161 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-23-2005 12:02 PM
...but I think you may be talking about Barry Goldwater, the 1964 Republican candidate.He was born in the Arizona Territory in 1909, and Arizona did not become the 48th state until February 1912. So if you are being REALLY technical, he was not US-born... |
FFrench Member Posts: 3161 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-23-2005 12:05 PM
.. and perhaps George Dubya was outside the US when he was "born again," and so should be removed from office as ineligible for Presidency too... |
collshubby Member Posts: 591 From: Madisonville, Louisiana Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-23-2005 12:41 PM
Where was Neil's father/mother born? If one of them was born a U.S. citizen, outside of Ohio, then Neil is a citizen regardless of where he was born. This is how it worked with my son, who was born in Australia. He has duel citizenship. In a way, this may make Buzz happy. He could technically claim that even though he was not the first man to set foot on the Moon, he was the first American! Ah, the technicalities of law. Mind boggling. ------------------ Brian Peter 385th Bombardment Group B-17 Bomber "War Horse" http://warhorse.omegappg.com |
Ben Member Posts: 1896 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-23-2005 12:44 PM
Yep, Goldwater, born in Arizona before it was a state :-)I think being born on military bases makes you a citizen(?), but I'm not sure. Some astronauts were born in that respect. |
thump Member Posts: 575 From: washington dc usa Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-23-2005 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ben: Yep, Goldwater, born in Arizona before it was a state :-)I think being born on military bases makes you a citizen(?), but I'm not sure. Some astronauts were born in that respect.
Yes military bases in foreign countries are still considered US soil, same as embassies in foreign countries, ie when I go to the British Embassy in Wash DC, when I enter their "compound" I'm on their soil.
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FFrench Member Posts: 3161 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-23-2005 01:33 PM
Yes, McCain was born in a Naval Hospital at Coco Solo Naval Air Station, so most likely within the base and therefore technically "US soil," if not technically within the actual "United States."FF |