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mensax
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posted 03-04-2005 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to learn more about the White Rooms. Any recommendations for a source of information? Were there any panaramic photos made of them? Anybody know any stories concerning "Guenter's room?"

It seems to me that this would make a great topic for a book!

Noah

randy
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posted 03-04-2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good source would be the book 'The Unbroken Chain' by Guenter Wendt and Russell Still.

sts205cdr
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posted 03-04-2005 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a White Room at the Kansas Cosmosphere museum in Hutchinson.

star61
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posted 03-04-2005 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for star61   Click Here to Email star61     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In 1988 there was an access arm at the KSC visitor center which lead off to a mockup CM. I have`nt got my photos near to hand to check if there was a white room on the end. I remember walking along the arm thinking this is probably the very same metal pathway that Armstrong an co walked down. If anyone knows the history of that particular arm please let me know.

Phil G

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Jurg Bolli
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posted 03-04-2005 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I know (last visit in 2004) it IS the arm that the Apollo 11 crew walked across, and yes, there definitely is a white room at the end, covering half of the CM.
Jurg

dtemple
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posted 03-04-2005 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have walked down that same access arm on three ocassions. The access arm is just beginning to get some serious corrosion. Too bad these historic items must sit outside and deteriorate before they are ultimately protected or are destroyed beyond repair.

mensax
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posted 03-05-2005 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It amazes me how small this appears to be.

I wish interior pans were available.

Didn't Guenter Wendt and several other men work full time in this space? Along with a desk, misc equipment, and I'm sure a constant stream of visitors and workers... man. that must have been crowded! All of the photo's I've seen of astronauts being presented with gag gifts and then being loaded onboard... there just appeared to be so much more room.

I suppose it's all in the lens, just like interior CM photography.

Noah

Steven Kaplan
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posted 03-05-2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Kaplan   Click Here to Email Steven Kaplan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The white rooms used during Mercury and Gemini were actually part of the launch complex gantry, or in the case of Gemini, the erector tower at LC-19. These surrounded the launch vehicle entirely. The white rooms were part of these structures, and were easily folded back into the service structure when it was time it to be moved or lowered before lift-off. The result is the much larger white room surrounding the Mercury and Gemini spacecraft we are used to seeing in all those photos. In Apollo, LC-34 and LC 39 used the smaller type white room picture above, mounted at the end of one of the service structure swing arms. This is similar to the white room in use today for the shuttle

mark plas
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posted 03-06-2005 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
phil,

I was there back in 1989 and i too can remember an access arm i have to check my pics too.

Mark

mark plas
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posted 03-06-2005 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something i was recently thinking about and i think we talked about this a while ago concerning Gunther Wendt was in the whiteroom during the apollo 17 closeout.
In Cernan s book he talked about Gunther not being there but i am pretty sure i saw him on my apollo 17 dvd.so what is the truth ?

star61
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posted 03-06-2005 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for star61   Click Here to Email star61     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely brilliant to think we really have walked on the same few yards of metal that the first humans to walk on another world passed down. I always thought it was the one , but nice to have it confirmed.
I remember a lot of scrap from the Apollo era being around the cape back in the 80s. It would make quite a collection today, if you had a BIG back yard.

Phil G

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