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Topic: Astronaut Central's 2012 Frank Borman signing
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Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 09-23-2011 07:50 AM
   
We'll have Frank Borman for a signing in January 2012. Editor's note: This signing has been canceled. See below for details. |
Daugherty54
Member Posts: 591
From: Cabot, Arkansas, USA
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 09-23-2011 08:21 PM
Great news about Borman! Definitely count me in. |
Spacefest
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From: Tucson, AZ
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posted 10-28-2011 12:49 AM
Borman signing pushed into February now. |
gliderpilotuk
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From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 10-29-2011 03:29 AM
Still great news though! |
Beau08
Member Posts: 159
From: Peoria, AZ United States
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted 11-04-2011 10:38 AM
I am planning on having an item signed by Frank Borman and just wanted an opinion from the boards as what might be the most desirable item to have signed. I have three lithos to pick from: 8x10 dress suit, 8x10 Apollo 8 "earthrise", and an 11x14 earthrise. The larger earthrise is same as smaller but grainier picture. Any input would be appreciated. |
Tykeanaut
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From: Worcestershire, England, UK.
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posted 11-04-2011 11:10 AM
I don't know if it would end up being the most valuable? But personally I would go for the 8x10 "Earthrise". You could perhaps always add Jim Lovell's autograph to that as well at a later date? |
Paul23
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From: South East, UK
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 11-04-2011 11:20 AM
I had an item signed in the last Borman Novaspace signing and went for the 10x8 Earthrise. It's an iconic image that he was directly connected to, and, as mentioned above, you might also be able to add Lovell at a later date if you are so inclined. |
mjanovec
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From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 11-04-2011 12:03 PM
Also, you have to look at your own collecting goals. Are you thinking about trying to complete a "set" of autographs (such as a set of signed portraits)? Or are you collecting signatures on iconic photos from each mission?Think about what you want your collection to ultimately be, then that should help you decide on what you need signed. |
Rick Mulheirn
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From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-04-2011 12:27 PM
The most desirable in my opinion is subjective. We can all offer suggestions but the most desirable is the image that appeals most to you .If I may turn the tables, which of the suggestions you have made do you prefer? You then have your answer. |
Beau08
Member Posts: 159
From: Peoria, AZ United States
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted 11-04-2011 04:58 PM
Good suggestion on possibly adding a Lovell signature. I ask this because these opportunities will become less and less very quickly, and would like to make the most it. I have been collecting for only a year or so and you don't know what you don't know! For example I attended Spacefest III this year and it was amazing. At the time I didn't fully appreciate how special it was to have Tom Stafford there. I got a WSS signature which I love, but should have gotten it on an Apollo 10 with Cernan. Could maybe complete it with a John Young at next Astronaut Central signing. |
benfairfax
Member Posts: 199
From: NSW Australia
Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 11-04-2011 10:08 PM
I think you'll find as time goes on you will want all the various options. I started with WSS lithos, then moved on to moon shot lithos,Autopen lithos and unsigned lithos. I plan on getting an Earth rise litho signed by Borman. Probably in the top 5 most iconic pictures of all time. |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 1933
From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 11-05-2011 10:04 AM
Another possible item to have signed is a print of a digital photo collage I put together in the summer of 2010. I made them for several astronauts to sign and then posted them on cS last year, thinking they might be handy for the ASF event that year.You'll see that the first three are for Gemini 7 and Apollo 8. I said that they might be good for Lovell to sign at ASF, but I had actually made them for Borman to sign earlier that year at Astronaut Central. See the little black and white picture of him in both of the Gemini 7 collages, and the color one of him in the Apollo 8 collage? If you click on any of the collages, you'll see a nice huge version. You can save that to your hard drive, then upload them to a photo printing service like mpix.com to have the prints made. Each of the collages tells the whole story of a mission if you read the photographs left-to-right, then down, then left-to-right, etc.: crew selection (that is, a crew photo), training, vehicle assembly, launch morning walk-out, lift-off, aspects of the mission, splashdown, and then some post-mission celebration. I also added a window with text detailing the mission. I liked making these, because they each contain at least two photos that were very interesting, but weren't available in high resolution. Putting them into these collages as just another one a few inches across made them usable. |
Spacefest
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From: Tucson, AZ
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posted 11-05-2011 02:44 PM
I hope they aren't inkjet-printed. |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 1933
From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 11-05-2011 03:14 PM
They use "Kodak's 200 year archival Supra Endura VC Digital and Endura Metallic" paper and inks. Isn't that pretty good? |
Spacefest
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posted 11-05-2011 03:54 PM
Interesting stuff. I'll have to try it on our own giclees. But it's still inkjet paper, and coated onto traditional paper. Inkjet coatings quickly wick away any moisture, which makes them difficult to sign, esepcially when a Sharpie sticks to it. |
Spacefest
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From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 12-02-2011 01:08 PM
Col. Borman will be here in early February. Forms will be ready soon. |
JasonB
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posted 12-03-2011 12:12 PM
Cool. I'm finally going to participate in my first Novaspace private signing! |
MikeSpace
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posted 12-03-2011 05:25 PM
For me it's no choice, Earthrise.When the ASF had the last Capt. Lovell mail-in signing, I went to Astronaut Central and bought a Borman signed 16x20 Earthrise. The photo is the highest quality and resolution I've seen of this image, and having Lovell sign and inscribe it made it a centerpiece of my collection. |
Daugherty54
Member Posts: 591
From: Cabot, Arkansas, USA
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 12-05-2011 04:20 PM
Earthrise for me too. I am debating the 16x20 size. I am glad to hear above that it is good quality and resolution. Now about displaying that size print, I am just not sure. |
Sam Que
Member Posts: 180
From: Chicago, IL, United States
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 12-05-2011 04:42 PM
I have the 16" x 20" signed by both Frank Borman and Jim Lovell. Although a great photo, when matted and framed it takes up a lot of space. But I do think it is worth it. |
Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 12-05-2011 06:26 PM
Download the Rules, Fees and Order Form. |
DChudwin
Member Posts: 1096
From: Lincolnshire IL USA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-05-2011 08:52 PM
I will definitely partcipate in this one. The base fee is $165 with no extras for completions or personalizations. This favorably compares with the $150 base fee the last time. More importantly, this is a charity signing with the proceeds to Col. Borman's foundation. Now all we need to do is persuade Col. Borman to come to Spacefest 4. |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 1933
From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 12-05-2011 09:17 PM
I participated in the last Borman signing, but thought I'd be sitting this one out. But then I realized that I had a chance to get a pretty unique signed item.I own an Apollo 8 Earth Orbit Chart (third orbit of three). It contains a fascinating detail: over Hawaii, the line showing the planned track... ends. The spacecraft has left Earth orbit, for the first time in history. Here is an Earth Orbit Chart from Apollo 11 that is very similar. See what I mean about the track just ending at Hawaii? I would greatly appreciate your help in thinking of what inscription I should ask Col. Borman to write next to that TLI point. It needs to be brief (at $10 a word; 10 word maximum), accurate, and convey the historic importance. I was thinking of something like "Humans leave Earth for the first time." Or would that not be accurate, since even going into orbit should count as leaving Earth? Perhaps "The first voyage to the moon begins." Again, I will appreciate any help with this. |
ilbasso
Member Posts: 1522
From: Greensboro, NC USA
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 12-05-2011 09:29 PM
"Where ARE we?"  |
DChudwin
Member Posts: 1096
From: Lincolnshire IL USA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-05-2011 09:32 PM
I have an Apollo 8 item already signed by Anders and Lovell so I want Col. Borman to complete it. The shortest inscriptions I am considering are "First to Leave Earth" or "First to Lunar Orbit" or "First to the Moon." What do you think? |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-06-2011 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by DChudwin:
I have an Apollo 8 item already signed by Anders and Lovell so I want Col. Borman to complete it...
I haven't seen the piece but I would seriously consider just adding a signature without inscription. I've not really seen many problem Apollo 8 items but I've seen too many Apollo 11 Armstrong signed items end up as messy and overcrowded crew-signed pieces because people have Aldrin add "MAGNIFICENT DESOLATION" or Collins add "APOLLO XI". Sometimes you have an Armstrong signature with "APOLLO 11" beneath it then people add Aldrin and Collins both with mission inscriptions as well. Err yeah, I think we know which mission they flew on from Armstrong's inscription! Maybe in your particular case the inscription is an opportunity not to be missed but don't do it if it doesn't suit the piece. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 12-06-2011 07:43 AM
During Col. Borman's last signing, I was able to get a nice inscription on my Lunar Orbit Chart. 
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HistorianMom
Member Posts: 105
From: Columbia, Missouri USA
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted 12-06-2011 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by DChudwin:
What do you think?
How about something like, "Apollo 8, You are go for TLI?" Of course, then you would have to have it signed by Mike Collins, too, whom I believe was CapCom at that time. Whoops -- I replied to the wrong person -- this reply is for stsmithva! |
Gilbert
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From: Carrollton, GA USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 12-06-2011 02:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by DChudwin:
The shortest inscriptions I am considering are "First to Leave Earth" or "First to Lunar Orbit" or "First to the Moon."
First to the Moon sounds great! Simple, dramatic, historic. That's what I would have him write. |
JasonB
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posted 12-06-2011 03:51 PM
How much extra did it cost for Borman to write that inscription? |
328KF
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posted 12-06-2011 04:12 PM
How about "Earthrise, Christmas 1968"This captions the photo, indicates that it occurred at Christmas time, and brings to mind all of the other issues concerning the world that were momentarily forgotten when this image gave us some perspective. $20-30, depending on if the date counts as a word. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 12-06-2011 06:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by JasonB:
How much extra did it cost for Borman to write that inscription?
I paid around $550 or so for the Borman signature and inscription. I was fortunate because I spoke with the great folks at Novaspace/Astronaut Central in regards to my request and they said they would see what they could do. I believe the response I got back following that request was from Borman saying something like: "Why did I have to go and say all that back then" or something along those lines. It was worth every penny and will be framed once I find a nice Apollo 8 beta patch for the display that I have in mind. |
MikeSpace
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posted 12-07-2011 07:55 PM
"Christmas Eve, 1968" was the inscription I asked for on my 16x20. After Lovell signed it, I said what the heck and had all astronauts who had seen that view who attended Spacefest III sign, so my Earthrise is now signed by: Borman, Lovell, Stafford, Aldrin, Bean, Gordon, Haise, Mitchell, Worden, Duke, Scott and Cernan.Not exactly the 'less is more' approach. But I love it. |
JasonB
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posted 01-08-2012 08:43 PM
Okay, I have my order form filled out and was wondering this — do you guys use the box I send my items in to return them to me or do you use your own box? Just wondering if I'll need to use a halfway decent box and wrap it in brown paper to send it to you. Thanks. |
paulus humungus
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posted 01-09-2012 01:59 PM
They use their own "bullet proof" boxes. |
JasonB
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posted 01-09-2012 02:29 PM
Cool I don't have to wrap it. Thanks. |
Spacefest
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From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 01-12-2012 05:39 PM
Frank Borman's signing is cancelled. A Borman family member is very ill, and must be constantly monitored.He'll reschedule if possible. |
Daugherty54
Member Posts: 591
From: Cabot, Arkansas, USA
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 01-12-2012 05:55 PM
Man, that is disappointing, but I hope his family member recovers. Best wishes to Mr. Borman. |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
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posted 01-12-2012 07:06 PM
Best wishes to the Borman family during this very difficult time. |
SpaceAholic
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From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
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posted 01-12-2012 08:30 PM
Ugh!  |
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