Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-05-2018 12:29 PM
Please use this topic to discuss SpaceX's sixteenth Dragon cargo flight to the International Space Station under NASA's Commercial Resupply Services (CRS) contract.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-05-2018 12:29 PM
Successful deploy of the CRS-16 Dragon into orbit, on its way to a Saturday (Dec. 8) berthing at the International Space Station.
The Falcon 9 first stage landing at LZ-1 did not go as planned and the stage made a "water landing" in the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Cape Canaveral. This was a new Block 5 stage.
Before the feed cut off, after the re-entry burn and before the landing burn, the first stage was shown entering a spin.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-05-2018 12:43 PM
From Elon Musk on Twitter:
Grid fin hydraulic pump stalled, so Falcon landed just out to sea. Appears to be undamaged and is transmitting data. Recovery ship dispatched.
Regarding the stalled pump:
Pump is single string. Some landing systems are not redundant, as landing is considered ground safety critical, but not mission critical. Given this event, we will likely add a backup pump and lines.
Asked whether the stage can be reused, Musk replied:
We may use it for an internal SpaceX mission.
He also apologized for cutting the video feed from the stage:
Yes, cutaway was a mistake. We will show all footage, good or bad.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-05-2018 01:38 PM
From Elon Musk on Twitter:
Engines stabilized rocket spin just in time, enabling an intact landing in water! Ships en route to rescue Falcon.
Tracking shot of Falcon water landing.
teopze Member
Posts: 180 From: Warsaw, Poland Registered: May 2008
posted 12-05-2018 03:53 PM
Huh... just when I thought it's already routine. The footage looks incredible.
It's good to know that in the case of anomaly the vehicle targets the ocean intentionally, rather than VAB or something. This is a full explanation.
Posts: 905 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 12-05-2018 10:10 PM
This type of failure is perhaps something that the program needed. A public demonstration of safety systems and protocols, and the explanations regarding software design for landing safety that are coming out of SpaceX must help to grow confidence in the vehicle design.
SpaceX refinement of the Block 5 Falcon 9 will include a backup hydraulic system to provide system redundancy.
The rocket engine steering system demonstrating the ability to neutralize the roll rate induced by the failed grid fins is impressive.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-05-2018 10:58 PM
The roll being halted may have been more a fluke of timing than it was by design. Quoting Hans Koenigsmann, SpaceX's vice president for flight reliability, at the post-launch press conference:
Honestly, I am little puzzled about that myself. One thing is when you put the legs down, obviously, you change the moment of inertia, so you slow the roll down and I think it could be just that.
It is a single engine burning at that time, so you can't do a lot to undo a roll. But you can stabilize the other two axes and that's what I see there. I see a stabilization of pitch and yaw, so it doesn't gyrate as wildly as it did before. So from just looking at the video, the perspective narrows to a more focused area.
So I think that is one effect. The other effect could be the landing legs — just like when you put your arms out while rotating on a chair. But like I said, I think I need to look at data or we need to investigate that in detail to make sure we cover everything.
SpaceAngel Member
Posts: 307 From: Maryland Registered: May 2010
posted 12-06-2018 01:02 PM
Would've thought SpaceX had many of the problems with the Falcon's first stage resolved, when it comes to landing; besides, the last landing of the first stage did not suffer any problems during its landing.