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mikej
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posted 01-29-2007 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikej   Click Here to Email mikej     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw this this morning on cnn.com:
quote:
Brian Emmett's childhood fantasy came true when he won a free trip to outer space.

But the 31-year-old was crushed when he had to cancel his reservation because of Uncle Sam.

. . .

After some number-crunching, Emmett realized he would have to report the $138,000 galactic joy ride as income and owe $25,000 in taxes.


Ouch.

Maybe the contest sponsors should take their cue from NASA: Since none of NASA's astronauts are taxed for the value of their ride to space, maybe future contest sponsors should spin their contest as a "job interview" so they could eventually "hire" someone to perform some experiments on the flight :-)

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-29-2007 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Show of hands: Would you be willing to go into $25K debt for a $140K "free" ride into space?

My hand is raised.

Space Emblem Art
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posted 01-29-2007 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll swear the IRS must have learned from the nuns I had in grade school in being able to take the fun out of life. But I agree Robert I'll raise my hand also. $25K is a lot cheaper than any space travel ticket will cost in our lifetimes.

Bill

ejectr
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posted 01-29-2007 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My hand is raised..........There must be some way he can stuff it down the IRS's shirt.

Scott
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posted 01-29-2007 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not me. As much as I would love to go on a spaceflight, as the father of a young child there's no way I would go $25 thousand in debt for a minutes-long "jump" into space. Just my view.

mjanovec
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posted 01-29-2007 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking, if someone gave this man $25,000 to pay his tax bill, how much taxes would he owe on the $25,000 gift? And if someone gave him the money to pay for THAT amount, how much taxes would he owe after that?

Scott
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posted 01-29-2007 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mjanovec:
I was thinking, if someone gave this man $25,000 to pay his tax bill, how much taxes would he owe on the $25,000 gift? And if someone gave him the money to pay for THAT amount, how much taxes would he owe after that?


Haha! I didn't think about that, Mark. Too funny.

Rodina
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posted 01-30-2007 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mjanovec:
I was thinking, if someone gave this man $25,000 to pay his tax bill, how much taxes would he owe on the $25,000 gift? And if someone gave him the money to pay for THAT amount, how much taxes would he owe after that?

Yes. You'd then owe taxes on the $25K as income. Call that $10K, then $4K, then $1.5K, etc.

What's odd about this is that he doesn't owe taxes on this *NOW*, he owes taxes on it when he actually takes the space flight in, say, 2011 or whenever. Why he cancelled this now, is beyond me.

Jim
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posted 01-30-2007 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim   Click Here to Email Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got BOTH my hands raised! And as for a way to pay the tax, that would be no problem--I'm sure one of my ex-wives would be willing to pay it...

[Edited by Jim (January 30, 2007).]

cddfspace
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posted 01-30-2007 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cddfspace   Click Here to Email cddfspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we have shown that he would have been better off selling it on ebay- I know I would have bid! For something you have to pay for in 4 years of so, you think he would have held onto it a little longer!

CDDFSPACE

Greggy_D
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posted 01-30-2007 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think about it......25K financed over 5 years is essentially a car payment each month. There's no way in heck I would give up that seat. Maybe a company out there can hire him as their "Marketer" for the 25K and his suit would be decked out in the company's logo.

I don't think this young lad thought out his options long enough. Damn....I wish I had his luck.

mikej
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posted 02-07-2007 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikej   Click Here to Email mikej     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikej:
Maybe the contest sponsors should take their cue from NASA: Since none of NASA's astronauts are taxed for the value of their ride to space, maybe future contest sponsors should spin their contest as a "job interview" so they could eventually "hire" someone to perform some experiments on the flight :-)

Someone must have read my post (or my idea wasn't all that novel :-), but the company has now hired Brian Emmett as a test passenger on the space flight. All he has to do is offer "feedback during the testing phase of the project."

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