|
Author
|
Topic: The 100th Soyuz flight that (maybe) isn't
|
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
|
posted 10-16-2008 12:30 AM
   
collectSPACE: The 100th Soyuz flight that (maybe) isn't At the center of the Soyuz TMA-13 crew emblem is the number '100', which in turn, is itself the center of a debate. The three digits were meant by the designer, Soyuz TMA-13 commander Yuri Lonchakov, to mark a milestone: the 100th Soyuz to carry people. One problem: his flight may not be the hundredth. |
Lee Robert Brandon-Cremer
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 10-16-2008 12:30 AM
Soyuz TMA-13 is the 98th not 100thFlight History (to be clear) - Soyuz 1-40 (Soyuz-2, 20 & 34 unmanned, Soyuz 18-1 made it to 90 mile boundary, manned).
- Soyuz T 1-15 (Soyuz T-1 unmanned) T-10-1 not counted
- Soyuz TM 1-34 (Soyuz TM-1 unmanned)
- Soyuz TMA 1-13 (all manned)
Total: 38+14+33+13=98 Counting Soyuz 18-1, but not counting Soyuz T-10-1. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
|
posted 10-16-2008 12:34 AM
Yes, TMA-13 is the 98th manned Soyuz to launch to space, but that's not what Yuri Lonchakov (who introduced the 100-count) was counting.He was counting manned Soyuz flights, regardless of where or when in their flight profile they were manned. |
Lee Robert Brandon-Cremer
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 10-16-2008 05:18 AM
Ok Robert lets play this game...Add Soyuz T-10-1 then the total comes to 99. Not 100. I already counted Soyuz 18-1. Do the math prove me wrong. |
Robonaut
Member Posts: 259
From: Solihull, West Mids, England
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 10-16-2008 08:48 AM
Soyuz 34 landed manned by Vladimir Lyakhov and Valery Ryumin. Their launch spacecraft Soyuz 32 landed unmanned. Therefore Yuri Lonchakov is correct. There have been 100 manned Soyuz.Best wishes from another Robert Rob Wood |
Ben
Member Posts: 1896
From: Cape Canaveral, FL
Registered: May 2000
|
posted 10-16-2008 11:18 AM
Lee, did you read the article?What you are saying is essentially the same thing being brought up in response to Lonchakov's patch saying this is the 100th manned Soyuz. The article explains the different counts. |
jasonelam
Member Posts: 691
From: Monticello, KY USA
Registered: Mar 2007
|
posted 10-16-2008 02:08 PM
I totally forgot about Soyuz 34. I kept adding up the Soyuz vehicles and got to 99 (including Soyuz TMA-13), until the message reminding me about Soyuz 34, which was launched after Soyuz 33 failed to reach Salyut 6 and Soyuz 32 was beyond it's shelf life. Thanks for the reminder! |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
|
posted 10-16-2008 08:18 PM
In a somewhat confusing move, given their earlier decision to publish an article by Alexander Zheleznyakov disputing the claim that TMA-13 was the 100th Soyuz, Roscosmos has now posted a video to their website that asserts (by its title) that Soyuz TMA-13 was the 100th. |
Lee Robert Brandon-Cremer
New Member Posts:
From:
Registered:
|
posted 10-17-2008 12:10 AM
Damn! Robert is always right! Soyuz-34! I know I am stating the same info as the article, I just wanted to show some numbers. I agree TMA-13 is indeed mission 100 (manned and above 90 miles). I hate being proved wrong! Thank you all. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
|
posted 10-17-2008 12:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lee Robert Brandon-Cremer:
I agree TMA-13 is indeed mission 100 (manned and above 90 miles).
No, you were right: TMA-13 is the 99th mission to be manned and fly above 90 miles. It is also however, the 100th Soyuz to carry people (Soyuz T-10-1 reached a maximum altitude of 2,000 feet). |
advertisement