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Topic: Crew and visitor positions on the ISS
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waa49 Member Posts: 146 From: Neu-Isenburg, Germany, Hessen Registered: Sep 2015
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posted 04-13-2022 02:17 AM
On the ISS, the individual crew members have different designations, such as commander, flight engineer, head of USOS, tourist, etc.What is the official designation of the four crew members of the Axiom Ax-1 mission during their stay on the ISS? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 48267 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-13-2022 07:37 AM
I asked NASA about this and was told they are "private astronauts." As part of NASA's plans to develop a robust and competitive economy in low-Earth orbit, private astronauts are defined as flying on dedicated missions that are privately funded, fully commercial spaceflights on a commercial launch vehicle for the purpose of enabling tourism, outreach, commercial research, and approved commercial and marketing activities on the space station. Private astronauts are required to follow the Code of Conduct for the International Space Station Crew and other applicable policies. As an aside, there is no such title "tourist," at least not within official use in the program. Privately-funded visitors who fly on government-funded vehicles with government-funded crew members are considered spaceflight participants. |
waa49 Member Posts: 146 From: Neu-Isenburg, Germany, Hessen Registered: Sep 2015
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posted 04-14-2022 02:45 AM
Thank you Robert. For example, I would describe the two Japanese participants on the Soyuz MS-20 mission, Maezawa and Hirano, as "tourists." So currently on the ISS are: - Cdr.: Marshburn (USA)
- FE's: Chari (USA), Maurer (GER), Barron (USA), Artemeyev (RUS), Korsakov (RUS), Matveev (RUS) and
- SP's: López-Alegría (USA/ESP), Connor (USA), Pathy (CAN), Stibbe (Israel)
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 48267 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-14-2022 07:15 AM
Maezawa and Hirano were spaceflight participants (SFPs).López-Alegría, Connor, Pathy and Stibbe are private astronauts (PAs). |
Dave Shayler Member Posts: 168 From: Halesowen, West Mids, UK Registered: Dec 2009
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posted 04-15-2022 09:43 AM
Current 'administrative' designations on ISS are (until the departure of the Axiom-1 crew):Expedition 67: - ISS CDR – Tom Marshburn (Cdr EO-67 Phase I)
- FE-1 – Oleg Artemyev (Cdr EO-67 Phase II)
- FE-2 – Denis Matveev
- FE-3 – Sergei Korsakov
- FE-10 – Raja Chari
- FE-12 – Kayla Barron
- FE-13 – Matthias Maurer
Private Astronaut (PA) designation. - PA-1: Mike Lopez-Alegria
- PA-2: Larry Connor
- PA-3: Eytan Stibbe
- PA-4: Mark Pathy
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waa49 Member Posts: 146 From: Neu-Isenburg, Germany, Hessen Registered: Sep 2015
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posted 04-16-2022 02:32 AM
Thanks Dave, where can I find this information? |
Dave Shayler Member Posts: 168 From: Halesowen, West Mids, UK Registered: Dec 2009
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posted 04-18-2022 02:57 PM
The administrative roles for ISS crewing are not regularly reported but since the advent of six-person crewing in 2009 it became clear to me that a change in assigning Flight Engineer designations had occurred, which conflicted with other information from popular websites and other sources.Having followed the evolution of ISS crewing since its inception, further research resulted in a presentation on the topic at the 35th BIS Sino/Russian Technical Forum, 7 June 2014. This was followed by an updated and expanded article published in 2019 in the BIS Space Chronicle [Changing Shift of ISS, Vol. 72, pp 62-65]. Unlike the defined roles used during earlier missions, such as American Apollo Command or Lunar Module Pilot, ISS Flight Engineer designations are not specifically defined or micro-detailed reflecting the nature of the mission. The title Flight Engineer on ISS is an "administrative" one, used in flight planning documentation rather than a precise role onboard the space station. These designations only cover the mapping out of work, rest, and exercise period during an expedition (EO), while the allocation of clothing, food and personal items, the individuals name is used for identification. The crew designations used on Soyuz for incoming expeditions are not transferred to the ISS residency designation system and neither are short-term visiting crews (VC/EP) incorporated into the resident crew "administrative" planning but follow their own agenda, while still under the authority of the current Station Commander who retains overall command of the residency, the attainment of mission objectives, and the safety of all crew members while onboard the station. As previously noted, the arrival of Axiom-Ax1 has revealed a new designation on ISS, Private Astronauts (PA). Mission planners at NASA and Axiom had previously coordinated the activities of the four Ax-1 crew members with the current resident crew but they were not formally inducted into Expedition 67. There have, of course been times when the nominal use of the ISS FE system has had to change but generally the process has worked well for over 21 years and 67 expeditions. With the initiation of private commercial operations at ISS clearly the system will evolve once again, but for now there are key observations to consider when reviewing these assignments between 2000-2022: - Firstly, a FE assignment normally covers two expeditions and they retain the administrative designation across both expedition phases.
- When a pending Commander arrives on ISS they receive a FE designation on the prime expedition crew for the first phase, then are "promoted" to Commander for the second phase, vacating their former FE designation.
- Though not given specific roles it is true that since 2009 the FE-1 has always been a Russian cosmonaut, and that of FE-2 has, especially since 2009, mostly also been assigned to a Russian cosmonaut.
- Planners prefer to group incoming crew's together, which has at times caused FE numbering to increase significantly, with multiple crews onboard and delayed departures and gaps in the FE numbering system until a new crew arrives.
- The official start of an expedition [or as NASA prefers to call them 'increment'] normally occurs the moment the departing expedition crew's transport craft undocks from the station. Prior to that the formal, and normally televised, Change of Command ceremony can take place a few hours or a couple of days prior to that event. In the interim the outgoing crew are identified as the non-prime crew.
While these types of activities do not usually make the headlines, it is important to understand the system and depth of planning that goes into each expedition, often years in advance, to make each residency safe, successful, and operationally smooth and enjoyable for the crew and ground controllers. |
Dave Shayler Member Posts: 168 From: Halesowen, West Mids, UK Registered: Dec 2009
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posted 04-19-2022 03:14 PM
Here is a working draft copy (PDF) listing the resident crew assignments between 2000 and today, pending the departure of Axiom and arrival of SpaceX Crew-4. This will appear on my website in due course and be updated from there with additional notes. I hope it helps. |
waa49 Member Posts: 146 From: Neu-Isenburg, Germany, Hessen Registered: Sep 2015
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posted 04-24-2022 03:46 AM
Thank you for the pdf file about the "ISS-Exp. crew duty assignment." I tried to put together a table of the people who also flew to the ISS from various sources. I have sent you an email. Please, can you check this table and send an answer? The table can then be published in cS. |
Dave Shayler Member Posts: 168 From: Halesowen, West Mids, UK Registered: Dec 2009
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posted 04-28-2022 03:33 AM
To bring the story up today now that the Crew-4 are onboard station their administrative FE assignments on EO-67 are: - FE-14: Kjell Lindgren
- FE-15: Bob Hines
- FE-16: Jessica Watkins
- FE-17: Samantha Cristoforetti
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