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mjanovec
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posted 12-30-2006 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwfsFtpACFw

I don't think I've ever seen a full video from launch to MECO from inside the cabin before...and with cabin sounds intact. SRB sep and the ET sep are both quite audible in the video.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-30-2006 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost makes you feel like you are part of the crew, doesn't it?

(Now what I'd like to see them do is install a helmet cam on the CDR or PLT such that we can get a first-person view of what its like to sit in the front seat, read the panel displays, checklists, etc. I don't believe it could be downlinked live as they do during spacewalks but it could be taped and played back post-flight.)

contra
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posted 12-30-2006 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

here is another incabin video from STS 121
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTKxnzggkg&search=COCKPIT%20VIDEO

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posted 12-30-2006 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and I thought that, although the commander and pilot had a few things to do during ascent, they could enjoy the view....well no, apparently they've taped the flight plan (?) on their front windows! Rather strange, no?

Chris.

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posted 12-30-2006 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Must be a real pain in the butt to hold your arms up in place for three + hours.

Tom
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posted 12-30-2006 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was Columbia / STS-65 correct?

mjanovec
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posted 12-30-2006 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know what the apparent shockwave is that can be seen in the plume at around 4:30 in the video? They had already passed Mach 1 by that point based on the audio portion of the video (heard around 4:18). Perhaps just an effect of going through max Q?

[Edited by mjanovec (December 30, 2006).]

Ben Watson
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posted 12-30-2006 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben Watson   Click Here to Email Ben Watson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a database that collects all of the cockpit videos? If they are NASA videos (as opposed to property of the astronauts) I would think that there would be.

Frewi80
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posted 12-31-2006 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frewi80   Click Here to Email Frewi80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aloha
Is there a way to save these video's ?

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May the Force be with you.... @lways
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mjanovec
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posted 12-31-2006 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frewi80:
Aloha
Is there a way to save these video's ?

This site offers the easiest way I know of to save the videos:
http://keepvid.com/

You need to download the player to play the *.flv files, but otherwise it's pretty simple.

november25
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posted 01-01-2007 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for november25   Click Here to Email november25     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys for these videos- I have saved them in favourites-and passed on to my pilot friends-who will certainly enjoy these.
Robert is right- it feels as one is in the
cockpit as well- cannot wait to try out the new Shuttle Sim at KSC- in June.Should be well worth it===
Best wishes from
Brenda

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-03-2007 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those curious, here is a picture of the minicam used to capture the cabin launch views:

mjanovec
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posted 01-03-2007 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert...that is interesting. The thing that struck me about this particular launch video were the ambient cabin sounds that was recorded. Most crew cabin videos I've seen have only sounds from the voice loops and/or whatever sounds were recorded as part of the TV launch coverage. I've never heard the sound of SRB sep or ET sep from the crew cabin before.

One thing your photo has me curious about...how well can the crew see into the payload bay from the rear cabin windows prior to opening of the payload bay doors? Are there lights inside the payload bay to allow the crew to peek at the contents...either on the pad or immediately after launch? Granted, the doors open fairly soon after reaching orbit, so maybe it isn't necessary...but maybe they would want to take a peek at the contents to make sure nothign vital has come loose and is floating around...ready to escape as soon as the doors are opened. Which leads to another question...are there any contingency proceedures in place for doing a closed-door EVA in the payload pay to secure anything that might have come loose on launch?

Steven Kaplan
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posted 01-03-2007 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steven Kaplan   Click Here to Email Steven Kaplan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as “any contingency procedures in place for doing a closed-door EVA” opening the payload bay doors to expose the radiator panels is one of the first critical milestones that must be accomplished once the shuttle reaches orbit. I believe there is a finite time that the orbiter can fly with the doors closed so it is reasonable to assume that there are no procedures for a closed door EVA, except perhaps for assisting in closing the doors before reentry.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-03-2007 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the payload bay, floodlights are mounted on the forward bulkhead and at various locations along the lower payload bay interior.

To my knowledge, there are no procedures that call for the crew to actively perform any type of post-launch cargo bay inspection prior to the doors opening. Securing the payload for liftoff is so carefully checked between the transfer from the OPF to the VAB to the pad and prior to closing the payload bay doors inside the service structure, that it would almost seem unnecessary.

As Steven said, there are no procedures in place for a closed door EVA other than securing the doors in the case they do not close or latch correctly.

mjanovec
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posted 01-03-2007 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
To my knowledge, there are no procedures that call for the crew to actively perform any type of post-launch cargo bay inspection prior to the doors opening. Securing the payload for liftoff is so carefully checked between the transfer from the OPF to the VAB to the pad and prior to closing the payload bay doors inside the service structure, that it would almost seem unnecessary.

That's kind of what I figured to be the case. I just wondered if the crews take a peek as sort of a "what-if" check before opening the doors...considering the violent vibrations experienced on launch.

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