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spacegrl13
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posted 03-12-2006 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacegrl13   Click Here to Email spacegrl13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wondering if anyone knew if these crews are correct or if you know any other names for these future missions. Also, does NASA have a date when they are going to announce more future crew members. Thanks a lot.

STS-116
Mark Polansky
William Oefelein
Robert Curbeam
Joan Higginbotham
Nicholas Patrick
Christer Fuglesang

STS-117
Frederick Sturckow
Lee Archambault
James Reilly
Richard Mastracchio
Steven Swanson
Patrick Forrester

STS-118
Scott Kelly
Charles Hobaugh
Scott Parazynski
Dafydd Williams
Barbara Morgan
Tracy Caldwell
Clayton Anderson

STS-119
Pamela Melroy
Michael Gernhardt
Carlos Noriega

STS-120
James Halsell
Alan Poindexter
Michael Foreman

cheers,
Helen

DavidH
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posted 03-13-2006 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidH   Click Here to Email DavidH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've not seen Melroy attached to 119. Do you have a source for that?

Also, I would imagine the last two names on 118 would depend on when the mission flies.

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Ben
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posted 03-13-2006 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Melroy has been CDR for 119 for almost two years now.

The list looks accurate as far as I can tell. I have slight differences for the up/down crews (such as Anderson) but I have not received an updated list in a few months.

With every delay, the third ISS crewmember keeps switching; Caldwell has also been switched around a few times, as she hadbeen going up on 121 if Reiter couldn't (it was all dependent on the 'when' it launches factor).

In addition, now that 119 has been delayed way down the line, we might see those crewmembers move up.

PowerCat
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posted 03-13-2006 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good website that confirms these crew listings is: www.spacefacts.de

Good for future ISS crews as well.

spacegrl13
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posted 03-13-2006 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacegrl13   Click Here to Email spacegrl13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info Ben and the website, it has a lot of great facts.
cheers,
Helen

John K. Rochester
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posted 03-14-2006 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John K. Rochester   Click Here to Email John K. Rochester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With permission from Dave Melroy here is his response when I asked him about future missions just 2 weeks ago.

Pam has said they are working hard to do a May launch. Katrina did some damage to the plant where they build the liquid fuel tank, and they're scrambling to get it to the Cape in time to attach it to the shuttle. As soon as they have a clean mission, Pam said they'll start announcing future crews, and she expects to be named to one.

Dave

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posted 03-15-2006 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro-nut   Click Here to Email astro-nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to give you some informatiion on the crew assignments. Prior to the STS-107 tragedy NASA released crew assignments for future flights. They were:

STS-114
Eileen Collins-CDR
Jim Kelly-PLT
Steve Robinson-MS
Soichi Noguchi-MS
Ed Lu-MS(up to ISS)
Yuri Malenchenko-MS(up to ISS)
Alexander Kaleri-MS(up to ISS)

Expedition-6 crew to return on STS-114

STS-115 crew is still the same.

STS-116
Terry Wilcutt-CDR
Bill Oefelien-PLT
Bob Curbeam-MS
Christer Fugelsang-MS
Mike Foale-MS(up to ISS)
Bill McArthur(up to ISS)
Valery Tokarev(up to ISS)

Expedition-7 crew return on STS-116

STS-117
Rick Sturckow-CDR
Mark Polansky-PLT
Jim Reilly-MS
Rick Mastracchio-MS
Pat Forrester-MS
Joan Higgenbotham-MS

STS-118
Scott Kelly-CDR
Charles Hobaugh-PLT
Scott Parazynski-MS
Dave Williams-MS
Lisa Nowak-MS
Barbara Morgan-MS

STS-119
Steve Lindsey-CDR
Mark Kelly-PLT
Mike Gernhardt-MS
Carlos Noriega-MS
Mike Finkce-MS(up to ISS)
Gennadi Paldalka-MS(up to ISS)
Oleg Kononenko-MS(up to ISS)

Expedition-8 crew down on STS-119

STS-120
Jim Halsell-CDR
Alan Poindexter-PLT
Wendy Lawrence-MS
Piers Sellers-MS
Stephanie Wilson-MS
Mike Foreman-MS

Also the STS-121 was to launch the Expedition 10 crew to ISS and STS-122 was the be another Hubble service mission.

Now of course some of the crews have been reassigned to different missions. Some may even fly again. This was the schedule just prior to STS-107. I hope this will be helpful for you.

ASCAN1984
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posted 03-22-2006 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASCAN1984   Click Here to Email ASCAN1984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terry Wilcutt, I have just noticed, is now in management. He lost his STS-116 flight. That is terrible. Good news for Mark Polanksy though. I like him. I feel sorry for Yvonne Cagle. She is the only Sardine without a flight. I hope she gets one soon.

Ben
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posted 03-22-2006 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ASCAN1984:
She is the only Sardine without a flight.
She's not the only of her class without a flight, Caldiero too.

chappy
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posted 04-22-2006 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chappy   Click Here to Email chappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this correct that NASA said that they will not let any astronauts fly into space five times? Is that why they dropped T. Wilcutt from STS-116?

Also I've notice that J. Halsell had been selected for STS-120 mission, his 6th flight... why drop T. Wilcutt and name J. Halsell for the space missions?

Will be very grateful for your reply to me and I'm new with this... Regards, Chappy

Ben
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posted 04-22-2006 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A source confirms Halsell has also been removed from flight status. No word on a replacement on 120 yet.

(I don't know why I made that comment on Wilcutt March 22, as I said previously in this same topic it was of course true he was off 116!).

Tom
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posted 04-23-2006 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chappy:
Is this correct that NASA said that they will not let any astronauts fly into space five times?
Was the statement regarding astronauts banned from flying a fifth flight released by NASA?

The reason I ask is because Scott Parazynski is scheduled to fly on STS-118... his 5th mission.

Ben
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posted 04-23-2006 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that rumor probably comes from the whole 'Abbey not allowing more than six' politics of the past.

Once he left, Chang-Diaz and Ross flew their seventh flights. Ross is theoretically still on flight status.

There is no rule about five flights max, though. What there may be is a situation where they are going to limit assignments to those who haven't flown (the 98 and 00) class as much as they can rather than veterans, which I'm sure is why Halsell and Wilcutt got cut.

issman1
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posted 04-24-2006 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for issman1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the situation with Anna Fisher then?

Her only previous flight, STS-51A, was way back in 1984. She's listed as "active", so if anyone deserves a chance to fly it ought to be her.

Ben
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posted 04-24-2006 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fisher stands almost no chance of ever flying again (and she's not, according to a source). Before the disaster [and before Abbey left], it may have been a possibility, but with the few flights remaining I would be very surprised if they gave her one.

KSCartist
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posted 04-24-2006 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ben-

As far as I know she left flight status in 1986 to raise her daughter. Understandable when you consider that Challenger must have affected all of the corps deeply.

Did she upset those in charge by returning or is it simply a numbers game? Just curious.

Tim

Ben
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posted 04-24-2006 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it comes down to office politics. Mullane's book mentions her briefly as well but he doesn't touch on the details either.

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posted 05-16-2006 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DwightM   Click Here to Email DwightM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not anywhere near in the know, but I've been a fan of spaceflight since before I can remember.

As PowerCat said, www.spacefacts.de is a great source of information. I see they've recently listed some crew changes and additions. Scott Parazynski has moved from 118 to 120 with Richard Mastracchio taking his place from 117 and likewise, John Olivas filling in for Richard on 117.

STS 120
Pamela Melroy-CDR
George Zamka-PLT
Michael Foreman-MS (previously assigned)
Scott Parazynski-MS
Paolo Nespoli-MS
Douglas Wheelock-MS

STS 122
Stephen Frick-CDR
Alan Poindexter-PLT (was on 120)
Hans Schlegel-MS
Stan Love-MS
Rex Walheim-MS
Daniel Tani-Exp16/17

They also list Sergei Krikalyov as the Exp 17 backup CDR and 19 prime (very cool). Pretty soon we'll just be listing the time he's scheduled to be on Earth.

I hear that there won't be any formal crew announcements until after a safe/clean 121 mission, so I don't think any of that is 'official', but it's cool to see.
My take on the Wilcutt/Halsell/Parazynski thing (just my opinion) is that Scott's time spent in training (having been named to a crew much earlier as most MS's are) was taken into consideration. Not to say that Terry & James didn't put substatial time in, I'm sure they did, but that's just a thought on why Scott (and, so far, Michael Gernhardt on 119) remains assigned to a flight.

There are several vets (that have fewer than 4 flights) that haven't flown in a while. Anna Fisher has been mentioned, but there's also Ellen Baker, Cady Coleman, Julie Payette, Janet Kavandi, Chris Hadfield, and probably a few more I've missed. I know some are in Management positions, but they're still on flight status. I dunno, I guess I just want to see everyone fly.

P.S. What are the chances of John Grunsfeld getting assigned to 125 (HST SM-04)?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-17-2006 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Per NASA's (corrected) announcement today:

STS-117 -
Frederick Sturckow
Lee Archambault
James Reilly
Patrick Forrester
Steven Swanson
John Olivas

STS-118 -
Scott Kelly
Charles Hobaugh
Dave Williams
Barbara Morgan
Richard Mastracchio
Tracy Caldwell

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-28-2006 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding Halsell and Wilcutt, today's Florida Today possibly offers some insight based on comments by chief astronaut Kent Rominger.
quote:
After Rominger and Ken Bowersox, director of flight crew operations, looked at how many flights were left, they bumped some veterans with four or more flights to give others more experience.

"Being assigned to space flight is a really big deal, and being unassigned from a space flight is even a bigger deal," Rominger said. "In two cases I've taken two extremely talented, gifted, experienced shuttle commanders and pulled them off a flight, the logic being, when they were assigned to the mission, it was before Columbia happened, and there was kind of no end in sight of shuttle missions."


Read the full article here.

Fra Mauro
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posted 06-14-2006 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Bowersox determines the flight crews? NASA should stop hiring new astronauts then, if they already have too many. Is there a standby crew for potential rescue mission?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-14-2006 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA hasn't hired a new class of astronauts since 2004 and they won't do so again until at least 2008.

As for a rescue mission, STS-300 (the designation given by NASA) would see Atlantis launch with STS-115's core crew of Jett, Ferguson, Tanner and Burbank.

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