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pokey
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posted 05-24-2004 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pokey   Click Here to Email pokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2589237

ALAIN
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posted 05-25-2004 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALAIN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pitty the Russian "orlan" spacesuits cannot be used from the US Quest airlock which is closer located to the Z-truss where the failing gyro is located.
But US spacesuits can be used from the Russian Pirs airlock I thought.
Do the US spacesuits have a name ?

Matt T
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posted 05-25-2004 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt T   Click Here to Email Matt T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe they're referred to at ILC as ISS Suits. They're an improved version of the Shuttle EVA suit.

Cheers,
Matt

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-25-2004 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA refers to them still as EMUs (Extravehicular Mobility Unit), as can be seen in this space station update released by the space agency yesterday, "Update on EMU Troubleshooting: Faced with both EMU 3005 & 3013 currently being No Go for EVA due to cooling failure, Houston this morning requested Moscow to support preparations for conducting the unscheduled RPCM replacement EVA next month using Russian Orlan-M spacesuits, with the DC1 docking module for egress/ingress."

Philip
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posted 06-25-2004 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well FINCKE has the record of the shortest EVA on ISS ... Thursday 25 JUne 2004 : 14 minutes and 22 seconds ...
NASA didn't mention PADALKA so I guess he stayed in the open PIRS airlock ?

pokey
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posted 06-25-2004 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pokey   Click Here to Email pokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From a brief blurb on the radio afterwards, CAPCOM Burbank told Fincke that he had the shortest EVA, but the good news is he's no longer an EVA rookie!

Carrie
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posted 06-25-2004 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carrie   Click Here to Email Carrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Padalka was still in the airlock. See http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/workinginspace/exp9_eva_advancer.html :

"Official start time of the Thursday spacewalk was 5:56 p.m. EDT, when crewmembers opened the airlock hatch of the Pirs Docking Compartment in the Station's Russian segment. But moments later, Russian flight controllers ordered Fincke back inside -- Padalka was still in the airlock -- after flight controllers saw the drop in pressure in the primary oxygen bottle of Fincke's suit."

ALAIN
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posted 06-26-2004 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALAIN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess this was the shortest EVA onboard ISS , but was it the shortest ever ?
I think Ed White's EVA on Gemini 4 was also a short one ?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-26-2004 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White's EVA was 36 minutes in duration. Fincke appears to hold the record for the shortest American EVA.

(Leonov has Fincke beat on Voskhod 2 at 12 minutes.)

[This message has been edited by Robert Pearlman (edited June 26, 2004).]

Ashy
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posted 06-28-2004 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ashy   Click Here to Email Ashy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Robert but I actually think that Fincke holds the record. According to the reports I've seen about Leonov's EVA, it apparently lasted 24 minutes, eg, Hoopers 'The Soviet Cosmonaut Team'. There it says that Leonov struggled to get back into the Voskhod for 12 minutes and gives his final time for EVA as 24 mins.

Si

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-28-2004 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashy:
According to the reports I've seen about Leonov's EVA, it apparently lasted 24 minutes

You could be right. I am on extended travel and therefore do not have access to any of my reference books. I used SpaceFacts.de as my source for the 12 minutes citation:

http://www.spacefacts.de/eva/cosmonauts/english/leonov_aleksei.htm

Tom
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posted 06-28-2004 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While we're on the topic of "short walks in space", anybody remember how long Al Wordens EVA was on Apollo 15?

Ashy
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posted 06-28-2004 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ashy   Click Here to Email Ashy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Al Worden's EVA is recorded as 39 minutes. And if thats right I'm on a roll and might just get some lottery ticketss on the strength of it. My luck can't hold out forever!

Si

november25
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posted 06-28-2004 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for november25   Click Here to Email november25     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Guys,
Just noticed what you all are talking about.
Met Yury Usachev [STS101 Commander} Who recently came down from the ISS and appeared ate the Air and Space Show in Florida. I have a signed photo of Yury in his Russian EVA SUIT- which is white, and I did ask him quite a few questions at rhe show- mainly about life on the ISS and about
this new space suit-YES IT IS THE SAME AS THE OTHER EVA ONES, but an update-RUSSIAN STYLE. Yury was a very charming guy to talk to- he answered all my questions, and I am the very pround owner of 1 SIGNED PICTURE-
TO BRENDA- BEST WISHES FROM YURY- in this suit. plus other great autographs-thanks to
a collectspace member John M for taking care of our Russian Friend.
All the best,cheers Brewnda. IOM
THis was posted at 12.30pm gmt

Rodina
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posted 07-01-2004 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Is the Red and Blue pinstripe on the space suit a distinction for Commander/Not-Commander, or for Russian/American or for something else?

carmelo
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posted 07-01-2004 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carmelo   Click Here to Email carmelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since Apollo 13 the red strip is american a distinction comander/not comander for EVA suits,non used,strange thing,only in Skylab project.

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