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LM-12
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posted 06-25-2011 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think is the most significant event in manned spaceflight history?
  • the first manned flight - Vostok 1
  • the first manned flight to leave Earth orbit - Apollo 8
  • the first manned lunar landing - Apollo 11
  • the first manned space station - Salyut 1
  • the first EVA - Leonov
  • the Apollo 13 rescue
My choice would be the flight of Apollo 8. First crew to leave Earth orbit. First crew to orbit the Moon. Truly a major turning point in human history.

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Other significant manned space events:
  • First rendezvous - Gemini 7/6.
  • First space docking - Gemini 8.
  • First winged spaceflight - suborbital - X-15
  • First winged spaceflight - orbital - Columbia
  • 1 Day in space, 1 week in space, 1 month in space, 1 year space.
  • 1st person in space twice - suborbital - Joe Walker.
  • 1st person in space twice - orbital - Gordon Cooper.
  • 2 people in space, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 people in space at once.
I would still say the Apollo 11 moon landing.

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posted 06-25-2011 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My question was really about major events.

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For me, the first flight. Because nobody knew for sure it could be done (they were pretty sure) until it was done. Everything else came after.

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Can add -
  • First woman to orbit - Tereshkova
  • First single orbit rendezvous - Gemini 11
The most significant - Apollo 13 as it proved the value of ground support and detailed planning.

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posted 06-25-2011 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Populists would say it is a toss-up between Vostok 1 (first flight) and Apollo 11 (first landing).

Purists would add Apollo 8 (first humans beyond Earth orbit).

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Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
Purists would add Apollo 8 (first humans beyond Earth orbit).
Apollo 8 was still in Earth orbit. The moon is in earth orbit.

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I think completing the International Space Station was much more significant, even if it's had much less of a cultural impact.

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Originally posted by Byeman:
Apollo 8 was still in Earth orbit. The moon is in earth orbit.
Not quite the answer I was looking for.

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From the technical standpoint of the history of flight, I really don't know. But from the perspective of world history, either Apollo 8 or Apollo 11. Both changed the relative positions of the USA and the USSR in the Cold War pretty dramatically. The competitor would be Sputnik I, but that wasn't a manned flight.

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Lest we forget, they said it couldn't be done: Breaking the mighty sound barrier - Chuck Yeager in Glamorous Glennis.

#1 and forever to be remembered as a milestone of mankind: "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed." First human visit to another heavenly body.

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Apollo 12: first non-free return trajectory.

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If by space events you mean actual missions I will say say in the following order

Vostok 1
Apollo 8
Apollo 11

If by events you mean a significant event that effected the manned space program I will say Kennedy's address to Congress on the decision to go to the Moon.

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Vostok 1 seems pretty blazingly obvious to me.

At some point in the future I would say the first human birth off of the planet (be it on another solar system body or born in space).

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While a good case can be made for Apollo 8 (the first time human beings have travelled away from Earth to another planetary body) I really don't see how there can be any serious argument that the key moment in the human exploration of space was when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the surface of the Moon. Vostok 1 and Apollo 8 were hugely important enabling events, but they were curtain-raisers for Apollo 11 which was so much more than a key event in human history: it was a step in human evolution. For the first time, human beings had come to rest on a shore which was not on this Earth. I will accept no argument about this.

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Absolutely 100% agree with Geoffrey (Blackarrow)... the effect on the human psyche of looking back at Earth from the surface of another world must surely be a defining moment. Yes only 12 men have known that experience! But hundreds of millions of humans have lived that moment in their own minds and said to themselves, "what must that have felt like?"

No other event has come near to having such a result as that of Apollo 11... sends shivers down my spine even now after 42 years.

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Geoffrey has touched on what prompted me to ask my original question. There are some major spaceflight accomplishments that are so significant that they are indeed milestones in human evolution. To be able to witness something on that scale in your own lifetime is absolutely incredible.

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Originally posted by star61:
No other event has come near to having such a result as that of Apollo 11... sends shivers down my spine even now after 42 years.
And remembering Apollo 8's live TV broadcast on Christmas Eve, 1968, and marveling at the lunar surface slowly passing underneath out the CM's window, still sends shivers down my spine... and a close 2nd, was hearing Armstrong's: "Houston, Tranquility Base here, the Eagle has landed!"

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Apollo 11 first moon landing is most significant to me. People will never forget the date (or where they were when the landing took place).

The most courageous manned spaceflight to me is the STS-1 mission. The first manned launch without unmanned test flights.

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Originally posted by Blackarrow:
I will accept no argument about this.
You won't get one from me.

I can't think of any other event in human history that actually seems more extraordinary with every year it recedes further into the past.

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Historically, Apollo 11. Ten thousand years from now people will still remember that Armstrong and Aldrin were the first humans to set foot on another celestial body.

Psychologically, Apollo 8. Nobody who heard the Christmas broadcast will ever forget Genesis being read with the white and black shadows of the Moon in the primitive telecast. Post-flight, the release of the "Earthrise" photograph fundamentally changed how many people regarded their home planet. That and other photos showed the Earth as a small blue globe in a vast cosmos. Apollo 8 ended forever the notion of an Earth-centered universe which went back thousands of years.

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Ten thousand years from now people will still remember that Armstrong and Aldrin were the first humans to set foot on another celestial body.

Hopefully, they won't still be saying that Cernan and Schmitt were the last.

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I would also add the first ISS construction flight and the launch of the first crew.

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Has to be Apollo 11.

And, as Walter Cronkite said, the fact that we were able to witness the moonwalk 'live' was as much a miracle as the flight itself.

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posted 06-26-2011 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
Apollo 8 (first humans beyond Earth orbit).
When you consider that the universe is infinite and ours to explore, the future implications of that "GO for TLI" burn on Apollo 8 are absolutely mind-boggling!

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It must be Apollo 11.

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Vostok 1

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Originally posted by DChudwin:
Historically, Apollo 11. Ten thousand years from now people will still remember that Armstrong and Aldrin were the first humans to set foot on another celestial body.
I agree. Apollo 11 will go down in history as a pivotal event in the history of mankind.

I don't want to predict who will remember what in 10K years, but I think in five hundred years, schoolchildren will learn about Neil Armstrong's first steps on the moon the same way they learn that Columbus discovered America. It is quite likely that, just like with the Columbus narrative, there will be misconceptions built into the story people tell their children... but Armstrong's first stops on the moon will be remembered as part of human history.

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The moment Neil Armstrong uttered the words "That's one small step for man; one giant leap for mankind." hands down. To think that prehistoric ancestors looked up at the moon and pondered what it was and it's significance. And now there was a human footprint there.

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Apollo 8

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As we can all see from the examples others have referenced, there are many significant events in manned spaceflight history. But because Apollo 11 represented a huge" leap for mankind", for me its the most memorable after Apollo 8.

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Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
Populists would say it is a toss-up between Vostok 1 (first flight) and Apollo 11 (first landing). Purists would add Apollo 8 (first humans beyond Earth orbit).
I agree with this.

This sums it up completely. Nothing denigrating Apollo 11 and I do include it in the top 3, but this is the correct order.

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Mike Collins, who was originally assigned to the prime crew of Apollo 8 prior to his medical surgery, said something very interesting in a documentary that I remember seeing a few years back. He commented on what Apollo was all about. He said it was all about leaving.

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For Americans to begin in a decade with the flight of Alan Shepard in Freedom 7 and by the end of that decade have walked on the moon twice is surely one of the greatest achievements in mankind. Vostok 1 aside, Apollo 11, and the flights previous that made it possibile, is surely hands down one of the greatest acheivements in history.

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Whatever the greatest achievement was, I hope that I have a collectible associated with it!

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It's interesting to see how members rank what most would consider to be the top three flights - Vostok 1, Apollo 8 and Apollo 11.

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He said it was all about leaving.
While that might be true to some philosophers and other people, to the politicians Apollo was about politics, to the engineers it was about the machines, to many of the astronauts it was about the flying, etc. I think this shows how Apollo touched so many lives and is another reason to see it as the defining event of the 20th century.

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Vostok 1, while historically a first, manned entry into LEO has been repeated many times and by two other nations.

Apollo 8 is also a historic first, has only done 8 other times and was accomplished by one nation.

It is Apollo 8 for me.

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Originally posted by LM-12:
He said it was all about leaving.
Collins also talked about that in his 1997 JSC Oral History Project interview:
That's an interesting question, the historical importance of Apollo 8 versus Apollo 11. To summarize that, I think Apollo 8 was about leaving and Apollo 11 was about arriving, leaving Earth and arriving at the moon. As you look back 100 years from now, which is more important, the idea that people left their home planet or the idea that people arrived at their nearby satellite? I'm not sure, but I think probably you would say Apollo 8 was of more significance than Apollo 11, even though today we regard Apollo 11 as being the showpiece and the zenith of the Apollo Program, rightfully so, because that was President [John F.] Kennedy's mandate, to, as he said, land a man on the moon, not two or not a woman, but just a man on the moon. So that was the focus, and when that was done by Apollo 11, then that naturally put Apollo 11 up on a pedestal, but, as I say, 100 years from now, historians may say Apollo 8 is more significant; it's more significant to leave than it is to arrive. That's all.

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It's always been Apollo 8 for me. I was at the right age and it made a memorable Christmas.


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