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Topic: Sources and history on Vladimir Ilyushin
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music_space
Member Posts: 1179
From: Canada
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 05-30-2003 09:10 AM
   
The curator of the Space Science Center at Space Camp Canada, ( http://cosmodome.org/htdocs/index.html ), where I work a few hours a week, has asked me to find the lowdown on the fanthom cosmonaut Vladimir Ilyushin, who, legend has it, has flown before Gagarin. What historical credibility can be assessed to this story? What, if any, are bibliographical sources of authority on the subject?------------------
François Guay
Collector of litterature, notebooks, equipment and memories! [This message has been edited by music_space (edited May 30, 2003).] |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42981
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-30-2003 09:13 AM
This might be of good use:
http://www.astronautix.com/astros/ilyushin.htm |
MrSpace86
Member Posts: 1618
From: Gardner, KS, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 05-30-2003 02:26 PM
For some reason I don't seem to believe it. I think it's all just made up to get publicity just like the moon hoax guys. I still and always will believe Yuri Gagarin was the first man in space just like Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon.-Rodrigo |
Ed beck
Member Posts: 227
From: Florida
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-30-2003 03:54 PM
Personally, it is no skin off my nose if Vladimir Illyushin should turn out to be the first man in space. But, until it has been proven that he was, he remains an intriguing foot note in space history. Considering the fact that the early Russian space program only announced successful missions, does give some credence for the case for Illyushin. And, they may also have so carefully cleansed their files, that no conclusive evidence will ever surface. It just makes you wonder. Ed ------------------
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." Psalms 19:1 NIV |
FFrench
Member Posts: 3161
From: San Diego
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 05-30-2003 11:50 PM
"What historical credibility can be assessed to this story?"Absolutely none. Whatsoever. Period. |
RichieB16
Member Posts: 552
From: Oregon
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 05-31-2003 01:35 AM
Personally, I don't believe it and I never have. The reason for this is that there has never been any real evidence for it even after the fall of the Soviet Union. You would think that with all the other secret documents that were uncovered after the end of the communist reign something would have turned up-but nothing. So, I don't believe it. |
hinkler
Member Posts: 573
From: Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-31-2003 01:58 AM
From what I have read in various books Iluyshin was injured in a car crash. Dennis Ogden was the Moscow correspondent for the British Communist newspaper Daily Worker and became aware of this. He formed the theory that Iluyshin had received his injuries in a space flight. French broadcaster Eduard Bobrovsky came up with a similar story.
The only problem was that NORAD and also Jodrell Bank in England did not detect the launch or flight of any spacecraft at the time. Remember that scientists at Jodrell Bank figured out what was happening when the soviets photographed the dark side of the moon and actually had the photographs before the russians did. They had the scale on the photographs wrong but they did keep a very close watch on the soviet space program as did NORAD.
Hope this is of some help.
I would suggest reading "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David Shayler and "Red Star in Orbit"by James Oberg.
All the best from Oz. Regards, Ian  [This message has been edited by hinkler (edited May 31, 2003).] |
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