posted 09-07-2013 11:27 AM            

There were also a lot of Astronauts still working Gemini, and a push to start flying Apollo possibly in late 1966. It reads like Apollo may have developed a tighter rotation than Gemini (backup, skip one, then fly).

Also, in the book you are citing, Slayton makes clear, by this point Slayton saw no "moral or technical reason" to preserve the rotation for Apollo. The rotation in Gemini was designed to give guys the necessary experience to get plugged into key roles for Apollo. The sooner someone flew Gemini, meant the earlier Slayton wanted someone on an Apollo crew. He was ultimately intending to shatter the rotation, and assign Gus Grissom the first landing, and even after Gus's death considered rotating Borman's Apollo 8 crew to Apollo 11.

posted 09-08-2013 04:25 PM               

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Originally posted by Tminus8:
Surely this breaks the well-established three flight rotation system doesn't it? Any thoughts?

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Apollo was a more complicated matter. First: you have to think of Block I and Block II as different programs. At one point there were four manned Block I flights on the schedule; by late 1965, however, they had been reduced to two. So Slayton named crews for AS-204 and 205, with backups for both... planning to rotate them to the first Block II missions.

Second, Slayton knew there would be a gap of many months between the end of Block I and the beginning of Block II, allowing for, say, McDivitt's crew to have more like a year of training for its prime crew assignment on what you call Apollo 3 after being released from backing up Grissom on 204. The same with Borman's crew on 'Apollo 4',

(It also meant that Slayton was free to slot Grissom as a Block II commander, which would allow him a good shot at the first manned landing attempt. I would slightly disagree with Skylon's comment that Deke promised Grissom the first lunar landing. What he promised Grissom was the opportunity.)

Apollo wound up with a three-flight rotation by circumstance -- because, post-fire, with Apollo 7 launching in October 1968, it became apparent to Slayton that missions would be flying every 2-3 months... and crews needed that half-year. (They were able to accomplish this only because by summer 1968 they had been in Apollo training for almost two years to begin with. And even then, Slayton was worried that six months would not be enough for Armstrong's crew to truly prepare for the first landing....)