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Duke Of URL
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posted 05-07-2005 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the original Mercury plan was for all 7 astronauts to fly suborbital missions with Redstone and Jupiter missiles.

So what's the difference between a Redstone and a Jupiter?

And exactly how close was a Redstone to a V-2?

sts205cdr
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posted 05-07-2005 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you mean Redstone and *Atlas* boosters. The idea was scrapped because it didn't make any sense to continue with the sub-orbital Redstone flight tests once the Atlas was man-rated and ready for a Mercury spacecraft.

--John

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posted 05-07-2005 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, stay with me here because this is going to sound like it is going in circles. After developing the Redstone (a missile that flew a few hundred miles), the Army developed an Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) called the Jupiter that would fly ~1500 miles. In order to test the Jupiter systems during development, they modified Redstones with those Jupiter systems and called them Jupiter A and Jupiter C. They actually used a Jupiter C to orbit Explorer 1. So there may have been some thought given to using a Jupiter A or Jupiter C derivative of the Redstone for Mercury at one time. They ended up using an older model of the Redstone for Mercury. I don't think there was any intention to use the Jupiter IRBM for Mercury. Anyone else have any other info?

taneal1
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posted 05-08-2005 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taneal1   Click Here to Email taneal1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sts205cdr:
I think you mean Redstone and *Atlas* boosters.
--John

Actually, "Duke" is correct. There was a plan to follow the Redstone sub-orbital flights with *Jupiter* sub-orbital flights. The Jupiter flights were later deemed as unnecessary for multiple reasons, especially due to NASA's need to match the Russians with an orbital mission ASAP.

Tom

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Duke Of URL
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posted 05-08-2005 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by taneal1:
[B] Actually, "Duke" is correct. /B]

See? For a coconut I'm a sharp cookie!

DavidH
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posted 05-09-2005 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidH   Click Here to Email DavidH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by micropooz:
They actually used a Jupiter C to orbit Explorer 1.

And, of course, further complicating things, the rocket used the Explorer I launch is perhaps more correctly a Juno I.

Here's a bit of info on the Redstone/Jupiter/Juno history.
http://spaceline.org/rocketsum/jupiter-c.html


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sts205cdr
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posted 05-09-2005 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy, I learn something every day on these boards! Thanks!

--John

lb206
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posted 07-06-2005 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lb206   Click Here to Email lb206     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually the Jupiter refered to here is the Jupiter IRBM developed by the army later transfered to the airforce. It was considered for suborbital mercury flights but was not ever used for that purpose. A Jupiter did however carry the primates able and Baker into space. here is a link to its information. http://astronautix.com/lvs/jupiter.htm

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