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Topic: Yuri Gagarin autographed cover: real or fake?
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Henk Boshuijer
Member Posts: 450
From: Netherlands
Registered: May 2007
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posted 06-08-2015 06:05 PM
   
A few weeks ago I was able to buy a First Day Cover with the autograph of Yuri Gagarin for a cheap price. I know that there a many forgeries so I am not sure this one is the real thing... Opinions anyone? |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 06-08-2015 06:36 PM
Absolutely no chance it is authentic. If you can't get a refund, burn it.Sorry. |
ColinBurgess
Member Posts: 2031
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 06-08-2015 10:07 PM
A very bad forgery. |
Austronaut
Member Posts: 54
From: Graz, Austria
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted 06-09-2015 10:11 AM
What about with this signature? |
MIsterTrunk
Member Posts: 59
From: Moscow, Russia
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted 06-11-2015 03:56 AM
I think it's a forgery. That was my initial thought. After studying for a while I have doubts now. It seemed shaky to me to the end of the signature...and considering the amount of really good forgeries on Gagarin- I would personally avoid this one. But it actually might be good in my opinion. |
spaceflori
Member Posts: 1499
From: Germany
Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-11-2015 11:59 PM
The Suriname cover is a fake in my opinion but the Austrian cachet cover mentioned later is good in my opinion. |
Daniel Lazecky
Member Posts: 480
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-15-2015 11:17 AM
From my collection. Gagarin from different periods as well: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
MIsterTrunk
Member Posts: 59
From: Moscow, Russia
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted 06-15-2015 11:48 AM
Daniel, where did you get no. 2? |
Daniel Lazecky
Member Posts: 480
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-15-2015 12:19 PM
From my Russian friend, Gorod Tula. |
MIsterTrunk
Member Posts: 59
From: Moscow, Russia
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted 06-15-2015 01:42 PM
I'm asking beacuse that looks like "maksuta" forgery to me. Just my opinion. |
Daniel Lazecky
Member Posts: 480
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-15-2015 02:04 PM
NO! A gift from a friend, who unfortunately has died too. Vadim Moltkhanov. This material I got from him was not yet Internet.  |
Wehaveliftoff
Member Posts: 2343
From:
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 06-18-2015 04:35 PM
MisterTrunk, no. 2 looks beautiful, whatever were you thinking? |
fredtrav
Member Posts: 1673
From: Birmingham AL
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 06-18-2015 05:23 PM
I have to agree with MisterTrunk.
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Daniel Lazecky
Member Posts: 480
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-19-2015 09:53 AM
I did not invent it! Vadim Moltchanov was my great friend. This is the story of autographs. If you think you have, then nobody takes you to your opinion as well. |
MIsterTrunk
Member Posts: 59
From: Moscow, Russia
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted 06-19-2015 10:44 AM
Nobody is saying that you are the forger. This is the collector forum and I guess everyone has a right to give an opinion on the items he knows. The style of the autographs is very close to the forger's style mentioned above who has been in market for at least 15 years or so. If your friend didn't obtained the autographs in person then he more likely bought them from someone beleiving that the autographs were genuine. |
fredtrav
Member Posts: 1673
From: Birmingham AL
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 06-19-2015 12:27 PM
Daniel, no one is accusing you of forging this item, nor your friend. Unfortunately, the aforementioned dealer had been turning out these Gagarins by the thousands fooling many collectors. I am not an expert by any means, I do not even have a real one myself. I have been fooled by this style of forgery in the past, though I have not lost any money on them. |
Daniel Lazecky
Member Posts: 480
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 06-21-2015 05:22 AM
Nice day. Discussed autograph, which is located in my collection. I checked my records. My colleague Vadim gift sent as the screening. He comes from 1986. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 06-21-2015 11:02 AM
The late Vadim Molchanov from Tula had personal contacts with many cosmonauts and he was a frequent visitor of Star City. He died 20 years ago. There is no need to have any doubts about where he obtained his autographs. |
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