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Topic: Opinions on Armstrong, Aldrin signed baseballs?
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MrSpace86 Member Posts: 1618 From: Gardner, KS, USA Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 03-18-2014 10:44 AM
I was at Planet Comicon this past weekend in Kansas City and ran into this:Did I pass up on a really good deal?! I don't think I did. I thought Neil didn't sign baseballs often, much less in red. Any thoughts? Also, I ran into fellow cS member Pat (DC Giants). It was so crazy I completely forgot about taking him to see these baseballs. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-18-2014 11:02 AM
In my opinion, you were wise to keep your money in your wallet. |
MrSpace86 Member Posts: 1618 From: Gardner, KS, USA Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 03-18-2014 03:06 PM
Awesome. Thanks Robert!! |
vidoz Member Posts: 82 From: Italy Registered: Aug 2011
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posted 03-18-2014 04:36 PM
I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!
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rgarner Member Posts: 1193 From: Shepperton, United Kingdom Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 03-18-2014 04:53 PM
The price alone would have raised my eyebrows, but those have to be some of the finest examples that belong in the Hall of Shame. |
Rob Joyner Member Posts: 1308 From: GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 03-20-2014 12:33 AM
The only autographs I have are on flat surfaces. While I have no opinion on the items here, they do at least resemble the real thing. A question: How much difference is there usually with an autograph signed on a photo versus one signed on a small round object like a baseball? There must be a few differences in that the person signing would be doing so while the signing hand is holding the pen differently than if signing on a flat surface. |
garymilgrom Member Posts: 1966 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 03-20-2014 06:20 AM
Regardless of the authenticity I have never understood the attraction of any type of ball signed by someone who did not play that sport. A baseball signed by a hockey player would be bad enough, but astronaut signed makes no sense at all. What's the connection?On Edit: Thanks Robert for the explanation below. That makes sense. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-20-2014 06:32 AM
America. As it's been explained to me by those who collect signed baseballs, they see the ball as a symbol of the United States (baseball being "America's pastime"). Thus, having politicians, astronauts and other U.S. figures sign baseballs is a way to connect them to the country they represent. |
Steve Zarelli Member Posts: 731 From: Upstate New York, USA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-20-2014 09:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rob Joyner: How much difference is there usually with an autograph signed on a photo versus one signed on a small round object like a baseball?
It all depends on the signer. In my experience, most seasoned "autographers" have no problems with 3-D objects like balls or models. Shepard was wildly inconsistent on baseballs and I suspect that is due to them being signed at book signings where he was whipping off rushed signatures. Most of the other astronaut signed baseballs are relatively consistent with flat signed signatures. I would avoid examples that appear too slowly applied or drawn. I review a lot of fake Aldrin signed baseballs. |
MrSpace86 Member Posts: 1618 From: Gardner, KS, USA Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 03-20-2014 12:11 PM
He had all sorts of baseballs signed by historical people. He had a set of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden for $1000 (for the pair). Looked legit. Some of his items looked really authentic but then others looked a little bizarre. I am pretty well versed on Kansas City Royals autographs and he had quite a few and they all looked great. What about the Buzz Aldrin baseball? Looks alright to me. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-20-2014 12:18 PM
My earlier comment applied to both the Armstrong and Aldrin balls. |
JasonIUP Member Posts: 282 From: PA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 03-20-2014 05:56 PM
The only problem with being wary of slowly-signed Aldrin balls is that he slowly signs them, at least in recent years. |
Steve Zarelli Member Posts: 731 From: Upstate New York, USA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-20-2014 07:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by MrSpace86: What about the Buzz Aldrin baseball? Looks alright to me.
There is a zero percent chance that Aldrin signed ball is authentic. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-20-2014 08:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by JasonIUP: ...at least in recent years.
I would think that any of the baseballs Aldrin has signed in recent years would also have sufficient provenance to prove their authenticity (e.g. pictures of him signing or holding the ball, COA from the dealer who organized the signing and/or receipt from the same, etc.). |