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Topic: 121080471240: Armstrong WSS (Peachstate)
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liftoff1 Member Posts: 235 From: Cumberland, Wisconsin Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 03-13-2013 10:13 AM
eBay item 121080471240 is a Peachstate forgery.The seller has also listed an Apollo XI crew litho with a questionable Armstrong. |
garymilgrom Member Posts: 1966 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 03-13-2013 12:00 PM
Huh? The item number you gave is for an Armstrong WSS.What do you mean by "Peachstate Forgery?" |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-13-2013 12:19 PM
Peachstate Historical Consulting sold a large number (more than 100) of forged Neil Armstrong "signed" WSS portraits, the style of which is very well documented and acknowledged by the company's proprietor, David Frohman.One the tell-tale signs (the "flag test") of a "Peachstate forgery" is the signature crossing over the U.S. flag on Armstrong's shoulder. Armstrong himself confirmed in a letter, "I don't write on the flag." That said, the style of the forgery is also quite recognizable, to the point that just the shape of the signature identifies its source (Peachstate). |
Bob M Member Posts: 1745 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-14-2013 10:09 AM
The listing was ended by the seller. Hopefully he was advised to contact Peachstate for a refund, but per Peachstate's policy, would only be granted his original purchase price back. Back in 1999 when he bought it, that would have been around $300. Had this unlucky buyer bought an authentic Armstrong WSS from a reliable source instead, he would have a desirable Armstrong WSS to sell for around $3,000 instead of a $300 refund. |
liftoff1 Member Posts: 235 From: Cumberland, Wisconsin Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 03-14-2013 12:30 PM
Unfortunately, the seller still has the signed crew photo for sale which also bears a bad Armstrong. And that photo is garnering bids. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1745 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 03-14-2013 02:57 PM
The Apollo 11 crew signed litho doesn't appear to be a Peachstate and looks like this seller had the misfortune of running into two unreliable sources. Peachstate did sell a lot of Apollo 11's, and typically they had bogus Armstrongs and Collins, but with authentic Aldrins, with "Apollo XI" added. Interestingly, R&R Enterprises (pre-Scott Cornish and pre-Steve Zarelli) issued it a COA. |
Steve Zarelli Member Posts: 731 From: Upstate New York, USA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-25-2013 08:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bob M: The Apollo 11 crew signed litho doesn't appear to be a Peachstate... Interestingly, R&R Enterprises (pre-Scott Cornish and pre-Steve Zarelli) issued it a COA.
As a followup, RR proactively contacted the seller of the Apollo 11 crew photo to buy it back, to which the seller has agreed. |