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Topic: 360553845846: John Young signed 3x5 card
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jiffyq58
Member Posts: 218
From: Durham, NC, USA
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 01-10-2013 02:28 PM
   
Does the "AUTO" in the title of this auction mean that this signature is an autopen? I'm thinking that's what it must mean or the bidding would be higher for a John Young signature than this one has gotten. |
Greggy_D
Member Posts: 977
From: Michigan
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 01-10-2013 02:40 PM
Definite autopen. |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 1933
From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-10-2013 03:42 PM
I was just wondering the same thing yesterday - almost wrote to the seller to ask. I do suspect that it is a sneaky way to sell an autopen as genuine, then if caught be able to say that the AUTO was a perfectly clear notice. Which it isn't. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-10-2013 09:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stsmithva:
I do suspect that it is a sneaky way to sell an autopen as genuine, then if caught be able to say that the AUTO was a perfectly clear notice. Which it isn't.
I think you are giving him too much credit. This seller is a high volume consignment seller. He doesn't know good from bad autographs.
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chet
Member Posts: 1506
From: Beverly Hills, Calif.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-10-2013 10:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Zarelli:
He doesn't know good from bad autographs.
...or doesn't care. |
Tykeanaut
Member Posts: 2212
From: Worcestershire, England, UK.
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 01-11-2013 04:15 AM
Well, someone paid $67 for it! |
jiffyq58
Member Posts: 218
From: Durham, NC, USA
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 01-11-2013 10:18 PM
Someone must have thought he/she was getting a steal. Can't imagine anyone knowingly paying that much for an autopen sig on a 3 x 5 card. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-12-2013 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by jiffyq58:
Someone must have thought he/she was getting a steal.
They got a steal alright. But it was the seller doing the stealing.
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spaceman1953
Member Posts: 953
From: South Bend, IN
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 01-12-2013 09:29 PM
Why is an autopen not an original autograph of an astronaut, if the President of the United States can sign legislation using the autopen as his legal signature? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-12-2013 10:14 PM
Very simply: the reason the President can legally use the Autopen is because the law does not require an original signature. At the time the Constitution was written, a legal mark could be in the form of a wax seal or an authorized signature by another man. But really that is neither here nor there: it doesn't matter if law says an autopen is a legal signature or not, it is not an autograph. To the collector, it does not matter if a signature is legal or not, but rather than it is from the hand of the celebrity whose autograph is being sought. |
bwhite1976
Member Posts: 281
From: Belleville, IL
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 01-12-2013 10:14 PM
Well, I clicked on several of his other auctions and they all clearly state that the signatures are hand written and not autopens. The John Young auction has none of these disclaimers. |
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