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Topic: 160878642789: Armstrong Signed Postcard
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Michael1976
Member Posts: 106
From: Chandler, AZ 85249
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 09-09-2012 12:25 AM
   
PSA came back as "likely not genuine." It looked good to me. Thoughts |
chet
Member Posts: 1506
From: Beverly Hills, Calif.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 09-09-2012 01:52 AM
A perfectly authentic signature. |
spaceflori
Member Posts: 1499
From: Germany
Registered: May 2000
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posted 09-09-2012 06:20 AM
Classic PSA nonsense... They should be sued for authenticating space.Perfect signature. |
Michael1976
Member Posts: 106
From: Chandler, AZ 85249
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 09-09-2012 09:00 AM
I'm curious what they are seeing that makes them say not genuine. The flow of the signature is good. The three part "N". The three "A" is good the "L" has a smooth curve. The baseline of the "Eil" is perfect. Even the inscription of Apollo 11 is right on. Your Request for Item "Neil Armstrong sign Postcard", eBay Lot No. "160878642789", opinion was rendered at "9/7/2012 9:29:27 AM" and the result was: Response: "Likely Not Genuine" Here are the details of your Request: Comments:
Request ID: 89389
Request By: 09/10/2012 Thank you choosing the QuickOpinion service! |
liftoff1
Member Posts: 235
From: Cumberland, Wisconsin
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 09-09-2012 09:45 AM
A great looking signature. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-09-2012 09:51 AM
The only [very minor] issue I can see with this item is the top of the A in Apollo is typically sharper and more pointed. If that is why PSA failed it, is anyone's guess. Otherwise it looks fine to me and I'd be stunned if it was not authentic.It appears PSA Quick Opinion has had a hair trigger on Armstrongs as of late. On the Autograph Magazine Live forum, someone showed a few signed 3x5s that PSA QO failed last week. In my opinion they were textbook authentic and did not have even the slightest whiff of an atypical trait. Getting back to the signed airline postcard... don't you think if a forger was THIS GOOD at forging Armstrong they'd be signing something more desirable and valuable than the back of an airline postcard? |
Spacepsycho
Member Posts: 818
From: Huntington Beach, Calif.
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 09-09-2012 11:57 AM
Steve, I think it's a good signature, but like you pointed out, the A is different. What makes me wary of it is at the bottom stroke of the A in Armstrong, it looks as if the pen was lifted from the paper and put back down as the stroke moves back up. From what I've seen, that's an obvious tell that the autograph is not authentic. Opinions? |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-09-2012 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Spacepsycho:
What makes me wary of it is at the bottom stroke of the A in Armstrong, it looks as if the pen was lifted from the paper and put back down as the stroke moves back up.
Are you referring to the little blob of ink on the left side of the elbow in the paraph? If so, that is seen and expected in a ballpoint signature. He did it all the time. Probably due to the way the pen angle shifted as he moved through that part of the signature. |
Michael1976
Member Posts: 106
From: Chandler, AZ 85249
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 09-10-2012 12:08 PM
Has to be the heavy blobs of ink during the pen strokes, which they might say indicate a pause and a restart to the stroke. |
Michael1976
Member Posts: 106
From: Chandler, AZ 85249
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 09-23-2012 12:25 PM
Looks like the buyer of this item is attempting to flip it.. The story is a lie as this buyer wasnt the one who acquired it and I have never heard of the authenticator.300783825732 |
george9785
Member Posts: 196
From: Burnaby, BC, Canada
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted 09-23-2012 02:46 PM
Michael, please go back and look at the two listings again to see where you went wrong. Try not to rush judgments particularly if you're going to accuse someone of lying. |
fredtrav
Member Posts: 1673
From: Birmingham AL
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 09-23-2012 03:03 PM
It is a different postcard from a different airline, so it is not a flip.However, I would never take the word from a forensic document examiner. If I remember right this particular one has a bad reputation. I believe he authenticated for Coaches Corner and passed a lot of bad fakes. I do not say this signature is bad or good, just do not trust the authentication. |
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