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stsmithva
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posted 08-18-2015 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simon Parr's Auctions seems to be a major British auction house, but I have seen a LOT of questionable astronaut autographs, usually supposedly of Armstrong, in the last couple of years.

This one is one of the most ridiculous examples I've seen. We're talking sub-eBay-seller-with-0-feedback. I can picture someone saying, "Man, the 'N' is really hard. Ahhhh, 'X' is close enough."

Jonnyed
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posted 08-18-2015 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonnyed   Click Here to Email Jonnyed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha! I love the estimated going price of 400 to 600 GBP. Must be a hell of nice frame that the forgery is in.

lspooz
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posted 08-18-2015 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lspooz   Click Here to Email lspooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the photo of Gene Cernan/Apollo 17 just makes it that much better...

randy
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posted 08-18-2015 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen!

ColinBurgess
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posted 08-19-2015 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And whatever happened to "one giant leap"?

TLIGuy
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posted 08-19-2015 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a British auction house it's possible that is Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones autograph.

moorouge
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posted 08-19-2015 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stsmithva:
Simon Parr's Auctions seems to be a major British auction house...
Hardly. Look for the address given on Google Street View and you'll see that it looks like a private residence.

lspooz
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posted 08-19-2015 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lspooz   Click Here to Email lspooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Several of the other astronaut signatures also appear highly suspect (especially the Neil and Buzz bootprint).

Mike Dixon
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posted 08-19-2015 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, that's a heap of garbage as well.

stsmithva
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posted 08-19-2015 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moorouge:
Look for the address given on Google Street View and you'll see that it looks like a private residence.
I can believe it operates out of someone's house. They don't seem to even have their own website, instead working through a website used by other auctioneers (who do also have their own websites). But they've had 17 auctions in the last two years, each with hundreds of lots, many selling for thousands of pounds each.

That's why I'm surprised to see such terrible forgeries month after month. Like I said, they're often the kind you'd expect to see from a fly-by-night eBay seller. Although I notice that if you do a Google search for Simon Parr auctions, three of the first six results are warnings about forgeries.

JoKepler
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posted 08-21-2015 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoKepler   Click Here to Email JoKepler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hall of Shame candidate... clearly.

simon parr
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posted 10-11-2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for simon parr   Click Here to Email simon parr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the space autographs. Buzz Aldrin comes with an AFTAL coa from Gary King, and the Neil Armstrong we had listed comes with a PSA/DNA, certified genuine (IN THEIR OPINIONS). Also it is a registered business address. Hope that puts people's minds at rest.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-11-2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For reference, PSA/DNA does not have a solid record when it comes to certifying astronaut and space-related autographs.

The inclusion of their COA does not increase confidence in this case.

Lou Chinal
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posted 10-11-2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been a space junkie since 1960. I've never heard of him.

moonnut
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posted 10-12-2015 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bad items = Bad auction house. Simple as that.

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