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Topic: Is this Armstrong autograph authentic?
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space-coins
Member Posts: 118
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted 09-22-2009 05:58 PM
   
I recently bought a large lot of space memorabilia including this photo with Armstrong's signature. The signature will wipe off when touched (bad pen) so it definitely is a real signature and not printed... but is it authentic? The previous owner received it from his grandfather and had it in storage for years. Any help is appreciated! 
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mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 09-22-2009 06:34 PM
Get a refund!!!Sellers make up all sorts of stories to pass off their goods as authentic. But no amount of tall tales will ever make this item come anywhere close to being an authentic Neil Armstrong autograph, in my opinion. Also, if the lot your purchased had other autographed material, I would check that out as well. Look at the exemplars here at CS. Not one looks even remotely close to the example you have. |
capoetc
Member Posts: 2169
From: McKinney TX (USA)
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 09-22-2009 08:58 PM
I'll second that ... it's a candidate for the Hall of Shame, certainly. A really, really bad forgery.The photo would be more valuable without the signature, unfortunately. I sure hope you can get your money back -- this doesn't even fall in the realm of "possibly authentic, but somewhat atypical". It is definitely bad. ------------------
John Capobianco
Camden DE |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 09-23-2009 02:00 AM
A very bad forgery indeed, but the back story is even more fake. This looks a lot like a modern print. Even the number in the corner looks like it was put in the image by computer.Have a look at the back of the print and you're bound to find a watermark that dates it to the last few years. The only place the previous owner found this piece is sitting on his inkjet printer waiting to have the bad forged signature added. |
Rob Joyner
Member Posts: 1308
From: GA, USA
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-23-2009 06:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by spaced out:
This looks a lot like a modern print.
That's what I think. That would explain why the ink isn't dry. I have a two year old inkjet test photo that I signed with various pens. The metallic paint and the silver Sharpie still haven't dried, (regular Sharpies - blk, grn, red, blue - dry smudge-proof). |
mikej
Member Posts: 481
From: Germantown, WI USA
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 09-23-2009 07:10 AM
Once Chris [spaced out] pointed out the number in the corner, it immediately looked to me like the font the Smithsonian puts on their pictures.Compare with this photo of Armstrong on NASM's site. |
spaceman
Member Posts: 1104
From: Walsall, West Midlands, UK
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 09-23-2009 12:01 PM
Perhaps signed by 'a' Neil Armstrong but not by 'the' Neil Armstrong featured in the photograph. |
Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 09-23-2009 12:56 PM
Pretty bold to put a bad forgery in silver across Neil's face. Better to do it in black in a shadowy area.Kim
AstronautCentral.com |
Henk Boshuijer
Member Posts: 450
From: Netherlands
Registered: May 2007
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posted 09-23-2009 05:26 PM
This is a very bad forgery.... |
Daniel Lazecky
Member Posts: 480
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 09-24-2009 09:15 PM
Be discussing this autograph is your waste of time. Is that a clear forgery, with yet clearer intention - make money. |
space-coins
Member Posts: 118
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted 09-24-2009 10:28 PM
I bought it on ebay- the seller is no longer registered and his paypal account is suspended- so I guess I got ripped off. I'll try to wipe the 'signature' off and will at least keep the picture... what a deal  |
capoetc
Member Posts: 2169
From: McKinney TX (USA)
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 09-26-2009 08:53 PM
Did you pay with PayPal? You might be able to get your money back if you did...------------------
John Capobianco
Camden DE |
space-coins
Member Posts: 118
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted 09-26-2009 09:07 PM
Yes, I used PayPal, but after my claim was granted they couldn't recover any money. Well, lesson learned. |
dsenechal
Member Posts: 539
From:
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 09-26-2009 09:12 PM
In most cases, PayPal will cover your purchase if it is significantly different than described. Here's the page that shows their terms. Good luck. Dave |
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