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MCroft04
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posted 01-18-2006 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just recieved my offical announcement for the April 2006 American Association of Petroleum Geologists. In addition to chairing a session on Astrogeology on April 11, Jack is also participating in a tour of NASA and the moon rocks on April 8, 9:00 AM-4:00 PM. To attend, you have to register for the convention ($345 for non-members) plus pay $125 for the tour. There will be a strong focus on geology all day, so it could get boring if you're not into rocks. (Robert, I'll email you a scan of the tour summary)

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-18-2006 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the tour description via the conference brochure/website:
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A tour of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is always a popular venue for a technical convention in the Houston metroplex. The great majority of such events for AAPG are accomplished as an entertainment event rather than as a formally organized field trip such as this one. But for the 2006 convention, our NASA trip is indeed fortunate to have Apollo 17 Astronaut and former U. S. Senator Harrison H. Schmitt joining the tour. Dr. Schmitt, as you know, was the only geologist to walk on the Moon and collected samples for analysis. He later served as a United States Senator from New Mexico and continues to be an avid supporter of our space program.

Participants will travel to the NASA complex by chartered bus. Once at NASA, their staff will organize the group for the day's activities and set the schedule for both the tour as well as the talks focusing on planetary geology.

Our tour of the NASA complex in Clear Lake will begin with visiting the Apollo 17 space capsule and Moon rock labs and displays. Later, the group will gather for talks on planetary topics including geology of the Earth, Moon and Mars by NASA personnel and the viewing of rocks from the Moon and Mars!

As you would expect, many spectacular NASA displays and photographs will be included in these presentations.

This event will be open to both convention attendees and their spouses/guests.


Scott
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posted 01-30-2006 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good news! I found out and confirmed with the AAPG Registration person on the phone that the TOTAL fee for people like most of us (non-members of the AAPG) is $155 for this day-long tour of NASA JSC with Schmitt et al (the $125 Field Trip fee plus $30 Non-Registrant fee). There are only 44 places total available for this trip. I don't know how many are left. The $155 also includes bus transportation to NASA and back from the downtown Houston convention center, lunch and refreshments.

It will be Saturday, April 8, 2006 in Houston.

You can register online. If you want to register, go here:
http://www.aapg.org/houston/registration.cfm

and click on "Online Registration". Select "Non-Registrant ($30)" and then fill in the required info. When you get to the page with the Courses, don't select anything (assuming you only want to go on the Field Trip) and hit the "Continue" button at the bottom of the page. This will take you to the Trips page. The Schmitt trip is "Trip #3 – Tour NASA".

The Field Trip info page is here:
http://www.aapg.org/houston/fieldtrips03.cfm

FWIW I am assuming there may be a no-signing policy.

I also inquired about age limits, in case someone wants to bring their son or daughter with them for the tour. The AAPG person told me that the age limit of 13 is only for Convention Center activities (exhibits, talks, courses, etc) and does not apply to the Field Trips.

I went on a few AAPG field trips when I was a student member in college and they are very enjoyable. This one is special, a once in a lifetime thing IMO.

Hope to see you there!

Scott

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-08-2006 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted above, today was the AAPG Field Trip to Space Center Houston with Apollo 17 moonwalker Harrison Schmitt.

AAPG Convention Chair Charles Sternbach and his wife Linda graciously invited collectSPACE to accompany the tour. There were also several cS members participating, including Mel Croft, Scott Cornish and Tahir Rahman. As they took part in the entire experience and I only part, I will invite them to post their accounts of what was said and shared.

In the meantime, here are some photographs taken today...

Jack Schmitt describes the configuration of the Lunar Module while standing before a replica of its control panels.

The room in which Space Center Houston houses its artifacts is darkened, to give the effect that the spacecraft it displays are floating in space. Illuminated by orange light coming from within his Command Module America, Schmitt shares his Apollo 17 memories.

Schmitt (center) poses with AAPG Field Trip participants in front of the Apollo 17 spacecraft.

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Robert Pearlman
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cS member Mel Croft listens intently as Schmitt describes walking on the Moon before a diorama depicting his and Gene Cernan's landing site.

As the tour moves from the artifact room into the replica Lunar Receiving Lab, Schmitt chats with cS member Tahir Rahman.

The only professional geologist to walk on the Moon Harrison "Jack" Schmitt discusses moon rocks within a display of some of the samples he returned.

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Robert Pearlman
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After lunch and presentations by NASA Lunar Curator Gary Lofgren, NASA Astromaterials Curator Carl Allen and Sarah Noble, a postdoctoral scientist studying lunar regolith, Jack Schmitt signed copies of his book Return to the Moon for field trip participants including cS member Scott Cornish, seen here.

Schmitt seen during his book signing through the glass of a real moon rock sample display.

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dss65
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posted 04-09-2006 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dss65   Click Here to Email dss65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sooooooooooo jealous! Congratulations to all who were able to attend this event. It must have been like a dream come true. (Great photos, too, Robert.)

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Don

Scott
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posted 04-09-2006 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the wonderful pics, Robert. Good to see you again. That camera of yours almost looks like it can fly. Haha. It was great to finally meet my friend Tahir, who came down from Kansas for the weekend. And it was great to get to meet and have lunch with you, Mel.

Others can probably describe the day better than me, but this was by far the best space experience I have ever had, or likely will ever have. I know Tahir feels the same way. The amount of private face time with Dr. Schmitt was remarkable and much more than I had even hoped for. He is the nicest person and you could ask him anything. He would give you long, detailed answers, addressing you directly the whole time. He spent the whole day with us, from the time we boarded the bus in downtown Houston to when we arrived back. He is probably the most intelligent person I have ever met. I had heard others give this opinion, and I must agree with them.

One especially thrilling moment for me was to personally ask him the reason he'd kept his gold visor up a good bit of the time while on the Moon. I'd guessed it was for color reasons (seeing the landscape colors more accurately). He said yes that was the reason he did it, but of course I never knew that for sure until yesterday.

Each tour member received his book for free, which he gladly took the time to autograph for all of us.

Thanks also to Prof. Sternbach for coordinating such a wonderful trip.

Even the weather was perfect for the outside parts of the day. All in all a wonderful experience.

Scott

PS: Let me add: Special thanks to Mel for posting this thread and alerting all of us to this special AAPG Field trip.

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MCroft04
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posted 04-09-2006 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For a kid who grew up just south of the cape and witnessed all the early launches (about 75 miles away, but trust me you can still see the fire under the rockets) and then grew up to realize his other passion (rocks), Saturday was the highlight of the year! I drove to JSC instead of catching the bus at the Brown Cov Center, so I was waiting at JSC with a couple other AAPG members when the bus drove up. Jack was one of the first to get off the bus, and immediately stuck out his hand and said "hi, I'm Jack Schmitt". I knew then that this was going to be a fun day. First we viewed a film in the Destiny Theater, and afterwards one of the participants asked Jack how he felt after seeing the film (along with video of Jack on the moon). His immediate response was "privelaged". We then asked questions for about 30 minutes before heading to see the artifcts, including the CM America from Apollo 17. What a treat to stand next to Jack at the LM mock-up while he described his lunar landing! More questions (falling behind schedule all the time) before heading to CM America. It's about this time that I saw Robert; so glad to see him there. More questions and then onto the lunar landscape. Up to this time most questions were about the trip to the moon; now we got into the geology of the moon. Even more fun! Jack pointed out a small problem with the otherwise great display; the earth is hanging low in the sky, but in reality because most missions landed near the equator, the sun would have been almost directly overhead. Next on to the moon rocks, and more lunar geology. Behind schedule even more, we then went to the Silver Moon cafe for lunch and talks by NASA scientists Gary Lofgren, Sarah Noble, and Carl Allen. After this, Jack signed copies of his book for everyone, and then we took a tram to Mission Control (the one used for moon landings). After the guide gave a great summary of Mission Control, our trip leader asked him "hey, we have Jack Schmitt from Apollo 17, can he say a few words"? The guide seemed impressed, but he eventually had to kick us out for the next group waiting outside (and not happy I might add). Then back to SpaceCenter and the day ended for us. Jack was very approachable the entire day. There were about 50 of us, and I'd estimate that about 1/2 to 2/3 of the group had minimal knowledge of the moon landings and geology of the moon, so they were pretty quiet. That left a handfull of us bigmouths to ask most of the questions. As a petroleum geologist I don't get exposed to lunar geology at work, but I do read about it in my spare time. And even though the overviews presented at lunch were high level, I still learned a lot (no surprise here). Jack would have talked all day had we let him. He even talked a bit about his helium 3 proposals (which he will give a talk about on Monday at 5:30 PM at the convention center). I am also privelaged to be one of the judges for the Astrogeology session the he will co-chair Tuesday morning. I just can't say enough about how nice this man is. And did I mention smart and knowledgable? Here is a guy who walked on the moon and was a state senator, but was still willing to be one of "us" for the day. He seemed to have a good time as well. Great pictures Robert!

ejectr
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posted 04-09-2006 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FANTASTIC!

Boy I wish I lived further south to be able to attend some of these events.

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posted 04-09-2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for november25   Click Here to Email november25     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the great pics- now at least-I know what my friends across the {POND} look like.Glad you Mel and Scott had a good day-
{Nice Looking Guys}
Best wishes and regards to all in Texas.
from Brenda.
This was posted by november25
{on a cold wet-snowy day}wish I was over there.

spaceheaded
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posted 04-09-2006 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceheaded     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I could kick myself! I was signed up for this trip but had to cancel. Thanks everyone for the great descriptions, and thanks Robert for the photos. Wish I could have been there. Argghhh! Maybe I shouldn't have read this thread!

Bill

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posted 04-09-2006 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fabfivefreddy   Click Here to Email fabfivefreddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an INCREDIBLE trip!
I got to meet Scott Cornish and his delightful family. Also, had lunch with Robert Pearlman and Mel Croft. Robert, you are a great photographer! Thanks! Also, it was great to meet Mel.

Astronaut and geologist Harrison Schmitt was a great tour guide!
It was amazing to have him point out the areas he worked at the LEM mock-up and the AP-17 capsule. He went into great detail discussing the flight and the experience.
See links below for more story and pics:
www.onegiantleap.us/schmitt

www.onegiantleap.us/schmitt2

-Tahir

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MCroft04
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posted 04-09-2006 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was so excited to tell about the great day that I forgot to say that it was nice to meet some other cs'ers, Scott and Tahir. It's always great to put a face to a name, and both Scott and Tahir were very pleasant company. Hope to see you in San Antonio.

MCroft04
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posted 04-11-2006 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a summary to close out Jack's participation at the AAPG convention this week. He gave a great presentation to a large audience late Monday afternoon titled "Wildcatting the Moon". On Tuesday morning, along with Bill Muehlberger he co-chaired the section on Astrogeology; Moon, Mars, and Beyond. Following both events he gracefully signed copies of his book. Six talks on the moon and mars were included in this section. I was happy to get Bill Muehlberger to sign my copy of Jack's book. Bill was most appreciative for the request stating "I'm not sure I know how to do this". Another unsung hero!

MCroft04
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posted 04-14-2006 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a couple corrections to my earlier posts on this event. Jack was a United States Senator, not a state senator. I also stated that after the AAPG events on Monday and Tuesday that Jack "gracefully" signed copies of his book. I should have said he graciously signed copies of his book. If you've ever seen Jack's signature, you can't associate it with the word graceful. I think he's spent too much time swinging a rock hammer.

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