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Topic: Orion EFT-1: Launch and recovery event covers
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Auburnaut Member Posts: 23 From: Cocoa, Florida USA Registered: Jul 2013
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posted 12-19-2013 08:57 PM
Anybody planning on getting recovery ship covers made for Orion EFT-1 flight next year? |
JBoe Member Posts: 959 From: Churchton, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 12-20-2013 05:57 AM
I would be interested, but whom would you go through? The actual recovery ship, the naval base, Third Fleet? |
Auburnaut Member Posts: 23 From: Cocoa, Florida USA Registered: Jul 2013
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posted 12-20-2013 06:35 AM
I would send them straight to the ship. FPO addresses for ships. Looks like the San Diego address is missing though... |
JBoe Member Posts: 959 From: Churchton, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 12-20-2013 01:12 PM
Thanks! That's great to narrow it down, it would have been overwhelming if I had sent it them all.When the Orion was being recovered off of Virginia (Norfolk) would the USS ARLINGTON post stamp a cover being it this late? Thanks again! |
Auburnaut Member Posts: 23 From: Cocoa, Florida USA Registered: Jul 2013
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posted 12-20-2013 06:53 PM
I am sure you can get the post mark if you send an envelope. They may have had a special rubber stamp for the mission that they can apply. They will not back date the postmark itself though. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 660 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 12-20-2013 07:33 PM
I sent to the USS Arlington at the FPO address for the recovery test off Virginia but the covers were returned unserviced. |
eurospace Member Posts: 2610 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-07-2014 08:00 PM
For the first test flight of the Orion vehicle, will there be any pictorial postmarkers used at Cape Canaveral, Houston, etc? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42985 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-08-2014 02:06 AM
With regards to recovery ships, NASA has announced that the primary ship will be the amphibious transport dock ship USS Anchorage staged out of Naval Base San Diego. Supporting the operation as a secondary option for Orion's recovery will be the USNS Salvor (T-ARS-52), which will be used to load the spacecraft onto its aft deck if for whatever reason it cannot enter the well deck of the USS Anchorage. (A third option is planned to tow the Orion back to shore if neither the Anchorage or Salvor can recover the capsule.) |
Bob M Member Posts: 1744 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 11-08-2014 07:25 AM
Available from Ken Havekotte are Orion EFT-1 cacheted covers or Ken will service these Orion covers for you for the Orion EFT-1 launch scheduled for December 4. |
Brian Dumas Member Posts: 17 From: Federal Way, WA, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted 11-30-2014 04:42 PM
I have a cachet design for the upcoming (December 4) Orion Flight Test that I would like to get serviced at KSC, but I don't have an address for this. Does anyone have the correct address for cover servicing at KSC? |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-30-2014 04:48 PM
Brian, send any number of your covers to me for cancelling and servicing, and if you want, I'll be happy to exchange/trade some of my Orion cachet envelopes and insert cards for some of yours. Might be best to just email me. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-01-2014 12:53 PM
First, thanks Brian for the email, and let me, if I may, report on a different kind of Orion EFT-1 support vehicle.There is a new NASA remotely piloted unmanned aircraft system (UAS), named Ikhana, that will be used Dec. 4 to capture video of the Orion crew module as the spacecraft descends through the atmosphere into the Pacific Ocean. The aircraft's camera, mounted on the plane's underside, will generate a live video feed of EFT-1's descent through parachute deployment and splashdown. A pilot will fly the UAS from the Ikhana ground control station located at NASA's Armstrong Flight Research Center at Edwards AFB, CA, while a sensor operator will point the optical camera for visual sighting of the module. Might be a good idea to have some Orion space covers processed for Ikhana's role in NASA's EFT-1 maiden flight. Still checking on any recovery support vessels that may be in Port Canaveral or nearby on launch day. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1744 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-03-2014 03:44 PM
Available now from Ken Havekotte are three types of covers marking the Orion spacecraft's rollout from KSC to its launch pad at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.The top cover shown is double canceled for the Orion spacecraft's first motion, the start of the rollout from KSC on November 11. The second cancel is for the spacecraft's arrival at its launch pad at CCAFS on November 12. Individual single cancel covers are available for the start of rollout at KSC ($2) and arrival at the launch pad at CC ($2). The double cancel covers are $3 each. Contact Ken at: khavekotte@cfl.rr.com and order covers from him at 570 Sunset Lakes Dr., Merritt Island, FL 32953. Please include a #10 SASE with orders. |
JBoe Member Posts: 959 From: Churchton, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 12-03-2014 08:16 PM
Ken, do you have a cutoff of when you need orders in by? I've contacted the USS ANCHORAGE's PAO for any guidance/opportunity for cancellation of covers. No word as of yet and will check my work email when I get in tomorrow morning. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-03-2014 09:07 PM
Would like to get all orders in by Dec. 15th if possible, but of course, once an order is received, it will be processed right away.For tomorrow's planned Dec. 4 liftoff of EFT-1, if on schedule and not delayed, I will be visiting — with a few hundred Orion covers in hand — the postal stations of KSC, CC, and MI (Merritt Island). I am hoping to have all the postal work completed on the same day within three to four hours after the launch of Orion's maiden orbital flight test. For EFT-1 requested covers of all types that are not received by Thursday, they can still be processed for a launch day cancel throughout December. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 660 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 12-04-2014 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ken Havekotte: I will be visiting — with a few hundred Orion covers in hand — the postal stations of KSC, CC, and MI (Merritt Island)
Ken - will you or anyone else be getting Patrick Air Force Base cancels? |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-04-2014 04:29 PM
I'll try to visit Patrick AFB if I can, more likely if Orion launches on time or early in the 2.5+ hour window. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-06-2014 04:17 PM
I was able to visit both Patrick AFB and Cocoa Beach postal stations for yesterday's epic and highly successful Orion EFT-1 launch and orbital flight test.Altogether, there were five (5) post offices visited for processing Orion covers; first at KSC main postal unit on the space center, next was the Cape Canaveral facility near the port, in line next heading south on A1A to Cocoa Beach, Patrick AFB, and ending up with Merritt Island on SR3, just about a full circle it would seem of postal travel locations on the Space Coast. Within 30 minutes after Orion's maiden liftoff from the Cape-side, I left the Orion news center, my launch viewing station at Kennedy, and headed over to the first post office stop located inside the KSC Headquarters Building. The round trip took just over 5 hours from start to finish, and needless to say, it had been a busy launch morning with some traffic delays, but not too bad considering that it seemed like a shuttle launch here with EFT-1's introduction to space flight. My Orion covers were well received by the postal clerks in charge from each post office. All the covers that were with me were processed on site, actual launch day morning, while mostly at the customer service counters. But the quality of some hand stamp cancel devices used were not of the best condition, though. All in all, for this space cover collector and cachet producer, it was an exciting, fun, and challenging astrophilately day in commemorating quite an historic first-time space feat. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 660 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 12-06-2014 07:00 PM
Ken - thanks for making "the rounds" literally and figuratively for us collectors. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-06-2014 07:25 PM
No Tom, it was my pleasure to do so as I haven't done a multi-cancel P.O. project like this since the last shuttle launch in 2011.Heck, going on for several years now, I can't even recall having covers processed at either the Patrick AFB or Cocoa Beach postal stations. The Titusville P.O. may also fall in this category as well. The majority of space covers--just about all of them--these days are being serviced and processed at both KSC and CC, and sometimes on rare occasions, Merritt Island (MI). |
JBoe Member Posts: 959 From: Churchton, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 12-06-2014 07:30 PM
Ken, thanks again! I can't wait till my covers arrive to add to the Orion memorabilia that's continuing to build. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1744 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-07-2014 07:33 AM
Now the wait begins for recovery canceled covers after the successful launch and recovery of the Orion spacecraft (Thanks to Ken, the launch was more than amply "covered"). A number of collectors sent off covers to the USS Anchorage for splashdown/recovery-related cancels, and some also to the USNS Salvor. But attempted contact earlier with the USS Anchorage relating to its possible cooperation with collectors' covers resulted in no replies. So whether or not collectors' covers will receive anything positive from the Orion's recovery ship, and the USNS Salvor, remains to be seen. Another recovery cover possibility involves the return of the USS Anchorage, with the Orion spacecraft, to its home port, the San Diego Naval Base, scheduled for Monday. This collector sent covers there to be canceled for the ship's arrival and it remains to be seen if this attempt will be successful. The covers were sent Saturday from Georgia and it's doubtful the covers will be delivered on the day of arrival and if not, if the Postmaster there will honor a late request with proper (back-dated) cancels. With luck, collectors will receive covers properly canceled from the Anchorage and also other covers canceled for the ship's return to port (which could both be the same). |
Mike_The_First Member Posts: 436 From: USA Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 12-07-2014 07:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bob M: But attempted contact earlier with the USS Anchorage relating to its possible cooperation with collectors' covers resulted in no replies.
What was the method of contact? No responses from some are going to be more indicative than no responses from others. |
JBoe Member Posts: 959 From: Churchton, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 12-07-2014 07:58 AM
Bob M, good luck! I've contacted the Expeditionary Strike Group 3 Recovery Operations PAO and Military Sealift Command regarding the USNS Salvor, both unfortunately told me they don't do or wouldn't do cancellations. However, you may be able to get one through so don't get discouraged. I've been in comms with the Anchorage with potential prospects, hopefully those will pan out. |
Mike_The_First Member Posts: 436 From: USA Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 12-07-2014 08:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ken Havekotte: Might be a good idea to have some Orion space covers processed for Ikhana's role in NASA's EFT-1 maiden flight.
By any chance, did anyone do this that might have some extras with day of cancellations from the Armstrong Flight Center? By the time I discovered my interest in Orion and (more specifically) the coverage, it was too late for those requests.
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Bob M Member Posts: 1744 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-07-2014 08:32 AM
I sent an email to the USS Anchorage's PAO several weeks go. But I'm sure many of us have hope of positive results from the USS Anchorage, but that is bad news concerning the USNS Salvor indicating no cancels.But the USS Anchorage's non-response to emails may have been to keep word from spreading that they would honor collectors' cover requests and then receive too many. But it is possible that we cover collectors will have to be content with only launch covers for the successful Orion launch and recovery. |
Mike_The_First Member Posts: 436 From: USA Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 12-07-2014 08:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bob M: I sent an email to the USS Anchorage's PAO several weeks go.
In my experience (and I'm sure it varies as people do, so take it with a grain of salt), it's more likely that you'll win a lottery than get an email or phone call returned by a military PAO.The best way to go about talking to them is to call and hope they're available at the time you do so. At least that's been my experience in general. I've never reached out to this specific PAO before. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 660 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 12-07-2014 09:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bob M: .... but that is bad news concerning the USNS Salvor indicating no cancels.
It should be pointed out that USNS ships do not have postmarks. USNS Salvor covers would be similar to the tracking ships USNS Vanguard, USNS Redstone, etc. where they all had local post office cancels on their covers. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1744 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-07-2014 09:48 AM
With the USNS Salvor, I was hoping that she may have had some sort of ship's rubber stamp cachet/insignia applied to the covers and then canceled upon her return to port. With the larger ship, Anchorage, it's hoped, besides having covers canceled (on board or upon return to port), also perhaps have her ship's rubber stamp cachet applied or even a special Orion-related rubber stamp cachet applied. Us poor space cover collectors can at least dream. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-07-2014 12:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mike_The_First: By any chance, did anyone do this that might have some extras with day of cancellations from the Armstrong Flight Center?
Hopefully, Mike, I'll be getting some Orion launch day covers from my "Out West" cover servicer and contacts from Edwards AFB in commemoration of the Ikhana's role it had performed with the splashdown and recovery operations of EFT-1. I'll let you know more later. |
Mike_The_First Member Posts: 436 From: USA Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 12-07-2014 01:29 PM
Any chance you anticipate getting any from JSC as well?If not, do you know if they cancel/backdate? |
JBoe Member Posts: 959 From: Churchton, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 12-07-2014 06:49 PM
Ken, I would love to have the Ikhana from Edwards or Armstrong cancellation. Is it the same procedure as the launch day covers? |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-07-2014 07:30 PM
Joe, I am working on getting some nice cachet covers done for Ikhana and hopefully will have some JSC Orion Flight Control cancelled covers from Houston. But it may be a few more weeks before any such covers will become available. I'll certainly keep you posted, I promise.From what we're hearing, unfortunately, it doesn't look too good for us space cover collectors as Bob M. and others here have noted thus far in acquiring any appropriate ship cancels (even at the San Diego Naval Base) from either the USS Anchorage and USS Salvor for their crucial roles in supporting EFT-1. But as Tom pointed out there are no aboard postal cancel devices from such vessels. I am thinking, though, that at least a few of the Navy ship workers and sailors would have an interest in commemorating their ship's significant role in recovering the Orion spacecraft. Hopefully we'll be able to "discover" some prepared postal covers with at least some sort of provided ship rubber stamp impressions along with a postmark at the base port either for departure, return, or both. I would bet 100 different space covers that someone; either a collector, ship/ base port/and-or other EFT-1 involved personnel in the San Diego area or elsewhere would surface such covers within this month. |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 660 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 12-10-2014 08:05 PM
Did anyone send for any tracking/support station covers besides the Armstrong Center covers mentioned above? |
bobslittlebro Member Posts: 179 From: Douglasville, Ga U.S.A. Registered: Nov 2009
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posted 12-17-2014 02:24 AM
Ken, received the Orion launch covers Monday. Great covers! Good cancellations, top notch covers. Thanks again. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-17-2014 03:01 PM
Thanks so much, Tim, for the kind words and I am hoping to have more different Orion EFT-1 mission covers in soon.The space cover interest in EFT-1 has been overwhelming thus far, but there wasn't too much action here the first week after the maiden orbital flight test. All the sudden, with Week 2 after the flight, everything just picked up -- and still is going strong! Again, thanks for the Orion order and appreciate the comments here on cS. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1744 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-18-2014 03:18 PM
Here are three types of Orion launch covers provided by Ken. The top cover is a limited edition cover (71 done) and I don't know how available these would be from Ken. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 2913 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-18-2014 03:40 PM
Thanks, Bob, for the Orion cover postings and the first cachet depicted was designed and created by Brian Dumas of Federal Way, WA. As you can see, Brian is a talented cachet producer. Only 71 of them were printed in a "full conversion" format, as Brian will tell you. He goes on to say they're printed flat, "then I cut, fold, and glue each one of them by hand." Each issue is numbered by Brian at bottom towards the left side along with his initials. Nice work, indeed, Brian! I've got a few of them myself along with those of my own Orion/EFT-1 emblem printed cachet issues. If any interest in them, just email me and thanks. |
Brian Dumas Member Posts: 17 From: Federal Way, WA, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted 12-23-2014 08:18 PM
Thanks for the kind words Ken, I appreciate it. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42985 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-27-2014 06:42 PM
I just received my two launch covers serviced by the Kennedy Space Center post office (dated Dec. 5). They were postmarked using the shuttle program logo cancellation, which makes for an interesting crossover between the two programs. I imagine by the time the next Orion launches, there will be a new cancel device in use. |