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X-Plane Fan
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posted 08-04-2011 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a new 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) patch floating around NASA Dryden Flight Research Center.

jefespace
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posted 08-05-2011 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jefespace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you happen to know of a source to purchase this patch from?

p51
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posted 04-07-2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you can get to Edwards, I've heard they can easily purchased there. A USAF pal of mine went TDY there last month and got me one, he said he bought it on base but can't recall if it was a AAFES vendor there or he bought it at clothing sales...

X-Plane Fan
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posted 04-08-2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patches are being sold through the NASA DFRC gift shop for about $6. The 747 SCA guys also have a few they'll be selling during their trek.

Gonzo
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posted 06-07-2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone heard any updates on when DRFC may get these in? I'm on the wating list and have heard nothing for a couple weeks now. Thought about calling, but thought I'd check with the crew here first.

X-Plane Fan
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posted 06-19-2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got word from the factory that these are shipping out today, so they should be available by the middle of next week.

The reason for the delay was that someone at HQ thought the font used on the yellow 'NASA' was too close to that used in the NASA meatball so it had to be changed.

The revised patch now looks like this:

Gonzo
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posted 06-19-2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great. So now we have to look for the original along with this new "changed" version.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 06-19-2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But isn't that the point, that the SCA is operated by NASA? Did they have permission from Boeing to use the '747' in their special font?

Spaceguy5
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posted 06-19-2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA HQ is pretty strict about how the official emblems are used. For example, they don't want individual parts of the meatball being used by themselves, except with certain exceptions.

Gonzo
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posted 06-20-2012 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right. And I understand and even agree with their diligence on who and how their logos can be used. The point was the patch was already in production. That is, it was already released in the form it was with the font that was very similar to their logo. It wasn't until the second run of these patches that they decided that it was too close to their logo and "HQ" decided it had to be changed.

I understand that, in a strict sense, SCA is NOT a NASA run organization. However, they are very closely monitored and directed how to do their business, by NASA.

My point was that why did it take NASA until the second run of the patches, when they had to approve the design in the first place, that the font needed changed?

For us as collectors, now there's two versions of this patch. Not that it's a bad thing, and they certainly have the right to change patch designs at will (they are their patches), my question is, if that is their concern, why wasn't it caught before the patch went into production?

garymilgrom
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posted 06-20-2012 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think NASA is foolish to insist on this change. The new typeface is bland and unoriginal.

NASA has a glorious past. They should be proud of this and let others use the logos and typefaces that were seen on previous efforts.

X-Plane Fan
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posted 06-25-2012 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The revised SCA patches have arrived and will be delivered to the DFRC gift shop on Tuesday morning.

p51
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posted 08-04-2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I scored a Alpha Industries shuttle jacket in the right color blue (not a perfect copy of the G&B jackets the crews really wear but it's a nice looking jacket anyway) off eBay for very little recently and decided to put this and the "final mission" patch on it along with a T-38 one, I think it really looks good on that color...

Gilbert
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posted 08-05-2012 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does look good!

p51
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posted 08-05-2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I got two sets of the patches on this jacket, just so I could eventually put one on something I could wear and keep another set for collecting purposes.

Some would say I should have put a newer SCA patch on the shoulder because the older one will be worth more someday, but I wanted a patch that was more likely to have been really used by the SCA crew at some point.

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