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Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-05-2009 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
STS-129 mission patch

STS-129 will focus on staging spare components outside the station. The 15-day, three spacewalk flight will install two large ExPRESS Logistics Carriers (ELC) holding two gyroscopes, two nitrogen tank assemblies, two pump modules, an ammonia tank assembly, a spare latching end effector for the station's robotic arm, a spare trailing umbilical system for the Mobile Transporter and high-pressure tank.

Charlie "Scorch" Hobaugh will command the mission, which is scheduled to launch on the penultimate flight of Atlantis in November 2009. Barry "Butch" Wilmore will serve as pilot. The STS-129 mission specialists are Robert "Bobby" Satcher, Michael Foreman, Randy Bresnik and Leland Melvin. The flight will also return Nicole Stott from the space station.

STS-129 Mission Patch

The sun shines brightly on the International Space Station above and the United States below representing the bright future of U.S. human spaceflight.

The contiguous U.S., Rocky Mountains, and desert Southwest are clearly visible on the earth below encompassing all the NASA centers and the homes of the many dedicated people that work to make the space program possible.

The patch's integrated shapes follow the outline of the two ExPRESS Logistics Carriers to be delivered by STS-129 providing equipment ensuring the longevity of the ISS.

The space shuttle is silhouetted by the sun highlighting how brightly the orbiters have performed as a workhorse for the program over the past three decades.

The shuttle ascends on the astronaut symbol represented by the red, white and blue swoosh bounded by the gold halo.

The names of the crew members are denoted on the outer band of the patch.

As STS-129 launches, the shuttle is in its twilight years, juxtaposed by the 12 13 stars on the patch, symbolic of the crew's children who are the future.

The Moon and Mars represent how close humankind is to reaching further exploration of those destinations and how the shuttle and ISS missions are laying the ground work for those future endeavors.

The two versions of the patch are the print (left) and embroidery artwork. The sewn STS-129 patch will measure 5.75 inches high by 4 inches wide. Artists Tim Gagnon and Jorge Cartes worked together on the design.

Space Emblem Art
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posted 06-05-2009 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even before I read to the bottom of the post, I figured this was another Gagnon-Cartes creation. Very distinctive and eye catching. You guys are on a roll. Keep it up!

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posted 06-05-2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that's certainly an attention-grabber, not to mention a refreshingly distinctive shape. Great work, guys... but then I guess we should expect that.

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posted 06-05-2009 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work by two gifted artists!

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posted 06-05-2009 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voyager1975   Click Here to Email Voyager1975     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very unique shape! A very different look indeed! I love the sunburst in the embroidery artwork. As well as the orbiter just showing black underbelly and then outlined in white. Great job guys!

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posted 06-05-2009 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reminds me of the STS-71 McCall design a bit, where separate elements lined up in one patch. Congratulations to the TG/JC team!

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posted 06-05-2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a unique design! Congratulations Tim and Jorge on another great flight crew patch!

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posted 06-05-2009 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for embangloy   Click Here to Email embangloy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very unique, I like it!!!

The STS-129 crew is all male, except for the ride home for Nicole Stott; the patch has a O---> (Male/Mars) look about it. Was that just a mere coincidence? Was it intentional?

Another great work Tim and Jorge!!!

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posted 06-05-2009 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, Jorge, this is truly breathtaking! This marks 3 of the past 6 shuttle missions with patches designed by Team TJ. Well done!!!!

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posted 06-05-2009 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pargoo   Click Here to Email pargoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two different versions of a US patch now?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-05-2009 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is only one version that is a patch. The other is the emblem (or insignia). Embroidery limits what can and cannot be reproduced in thread.

pargoo
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posted 06-06-2009 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pargoo   Click Here to Email pargoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take a look at the STS-98 artwork, with the diffuse glow (a first on a shuttle patch, if I recall). They didn't find themselves forced to reproduce that on the woven patch as radiating rays like the 'patch' version on the right. They just wove it in thin arcs of different colors to represent the idea. Notice that *one* piece of artwork did the job instead of two.

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posted 06-06-2009 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you everyone for your kind words about the design. Jorge and I had a lot of fun working on this as it includes a lot of design elements.

One thing you may not know is that every crew prepares custom jewelry of their patch as a gift to their spouses. For every star in a patch there is a diamond in the jewelry.

quote:
Originally posted by embangloy:
the patch has a O---> (Male/Mars) look about it. Was that just a mere coincidence? Was it intentional?
The male/Mars look to which you refer was entirely coincidental. The crew wanted a unique shape and one that also illustrated their payload.
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Originally posted by pargoo:
Two different versions of a US patch now?
Believe me I understand your concern about multiple "official" versions of the design.

Yes, the crew could have chosen to have their "Sun" embroidered as was done with STS-98 - but in fact while Jorge created that gradient Sun, I (thinking of the embroidered version) submitted the design with a Sun as you see on the right above. The crew liked both and saw no reason why they couldn't have both. One for print media and one to be embroidered. While you compared it to STS-98 - I was thinking along the lines of ASTP. An homage to Robert McCall who gave me generous and excellent advice 27 years ago.

All and all a project we enjoyed very much.

More art to come.

PowerCat
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posted 06-06-2009 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patch looks great! Really worth the wait!

Mike Z
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posted 06-07-2009 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jorge and Tim, what a wonder job! Each patch is better than the last! I feel real motion looking at this patch. As if the ISS keeps moving up to the next level. These patches are really dynamic! I cannot wait to get mine and to see the patch on the Astronauts. They are very unique. Again guys outstanding work!! Congratulations!

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posted 06-07-2009 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you SO MUCH to all of you guys. It has been a very complicated job... but very, very funny.

Thank you Komrade, thank you Tim.

(Pargoo do not be worry: there will be not a new era of two patches by flight. It has been only this time, and really only one patch will be made at last).

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 06-07-2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An overwhelming and unusual patch. I like it very much. Great job Jorge and Tim. Thanks a lot.

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posted 06-08-2009 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voyager1975   Click Here to Email Voyager1975     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to point out that I just made a quick count of the stars in the insignia and there are actually 13 stars. In the patch description at the top it states that there are 12 stars that are symbolic of the crew's children. That's all. Thanks!

KAPTEC
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posted 06-08-2009 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right, Voyager. On the original drawing, there are only two stars on the lower right side (between the blue line of the astronaut symbol and the gold inner border of the circle. The middle one was not in the file. A mistake of Houston's drawing guys...)

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posted 06-11-2009 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KAPTEC:
A mistake of Houston's drawing guys...
This patch has now been posted in the internal JSC imagery site and it's the 13 star design. The caption however has quite a few minor changes throughout compared to the one above - and the part about the stars now reads "the 12 stars on the patch, which are symbolic of children who are the future" (not the crew's children).

I've written to the curator of the site about the 12/13 discrepancy and it's being investigated.

KSCartist
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posted 06-11-2009 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The number of stars is correct - they do represent the crew's children. The caption will be corrected to reflect 13 stars.

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posted 06-11-2009 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that's what I was just told as well. Odd that it no longer says "crew's children" though.

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posted 06-11-2009 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes sirs. Your are true, The mistake was mine... I'm sorry.

Robert Pearlman
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Originally posted by Moonbase Alphan:
Odd that it no longer says "crew's children" though.
That's because I wrote "crew's children," not NASA. The above description was not meant to represent NASA's official caption.

It is generally NASA's policy not to release any information about the astronauts' children, so I would not be surprised if the description remains generic.

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posted 06-11-2009 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonbase Alphan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's very interesting how close the official description is to yours above then!
This is the insignia for the STS-129 crew. The sun shines brightly on the International Space Station (ISS) above and the United States below, representing the bright future of U.S. human spaceflight. The contiguous U.S., Rocky Mountains and the Great Desert Southwest are clearly visible on the Earth below, encompassing all of the NASA centers and, in the words of the crewmembers, the homes of the many dedicated people who work to make our space program possible. The integrated shapes of the patch signify the two Express Logistics Carriers that will be delivered by STS-129, providing valuable equipment that will ensure the longevity of the ISS. The Space Shuttle is vividly silhouetted by the sun, highlighting how brightly the orbiters have performed as a workhorse for the U.S. Space Program over the past three decades. The Space Shuttle ascends on the astronaut symbol portrayed by the red, white and blue swoosh bounded by the gold halo. This symbol is worn with pride by this U.S. crew, whose members represent their country on STS-129. The names of the crew members are denoted on the outer band of the patch. As STS-129 launches, the Space Shuttle is in its twilight years, and this fact is juxtaposed by the 12 [sic] stars on the patch, which are symbolic of children who are the future. The moon and Mars feature predominantly to represent just how close humankind is to achieving further exploration of those heavenly bodies, and how the current Space Shuttle and ISS missions are laying the essential groundwork for those future endeavors.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-11-2009 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I edited the description that was provided with the art for publication on collectSPACE. I was not aware at the time if the text provided was going to be the official description or not.

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posted 06-11-2009 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, beautiful patch, the coloring, is breathtaking! I know the excitement you must be feeling, creating such a fabulous work of art. I do not know Jorge, but my compliments are also for him.

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Yeah, that's a dandy! It'll be interesting to see a patch that's a little taller than average.

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posted 06-11-2009 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pargoo   Click Here to Email pargoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice that NASA only has a hi-res version of the 'glow' artwork - for want of a better description. Are we not to be treated to the alternative 'ray' version? Two artworks, but we can have our choice as long as it's black? Apologies to Henry Ford...

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posted 06-12-2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ONLY the "glow" artwork is the insignia of the mission. The "ray" one is how it will looks once embroidered. Not a second version.

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posted 06-12-2009 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pargoo   Click Here to Email pargoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, thank you. At last, a clear concise explanation.

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posted 06-12-2009 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A pleasure, my friend.

(You know I'm the first fighting since long time ago against the double or triple versions of a patch.)

This time the crew likes the glow as their patch... but it should not be embroidered.

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posted 07-29-2009 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, lovely artwork with so many elements combined and sorry we were not able to get together with you and Jorge throughout the STS-127 launch week.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
In preparing our STS-129 crew cachet envelope covers, should we use the "glow" or "ray" version of the artwork?
Ken, only the "glow" one is the official emblem.

(It was a pity not to meet you in last launch. Perhaps in a next time).

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-07-2009 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thumbnail look at AB Emblem's STS-129 patch:

I don't know if AB Emblem has begun accepting individual orders but the e-mail to distributors went out today.

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posted 08-07-2009 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like they messed up on the star at the top. Should be gold and white. Other than that a great job!

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posted 08-16-2009 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked with the crew about the image Robert posted showing the gold star. This is their answer:
The white/gold star looks great electronically for the 3D effect, but didn't once we stiched it out. Looked at several other color options, but in the end went with the all gold, but sides stitched separately look.
So the final answer for this crew patch is the AB Emblem version is the "official embroidered" rendition. The artwork with the gradient Sun is the official emblem design.

KAPTEC
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posted 08-20-2009 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't see it clearly but it seems that they had put the Atlantis silhouette ABOVE the circle of the astronaut's pin, not BELOW as it must be...

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posted 08-31-2009 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JWC   Click Here to Email JWC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone have the STS-129 mission patch file in vector format that they could maybe email to me? My plan is to try and have it put on a new fishing tournament jersey I am having made.

Yeah, sounds odd but I have a reason.

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posted 11-13-2009 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SPACEFACTS   Click Here to Email SPACEFACTS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has someone seen a payload patch?


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