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Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-13-2012 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISS Expedition 38 mission patch

The International Space Station's (ISS) Expedition 38 begins with the scheduled undocking of Soyuz TMA-09M in November 2013. Three new crew members will arrive shortly thereafter on Soyuz TMA-11M.

ISS Expedition 38 will be commanded by Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Kotov. His crewmates, all flight engineers include: cosmonauts Sergey Ryazansky and Mikhail Tyurin, Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) astronaut Koichi Wakata, and NASA's Mike Hopkins and Rick Mastracchio.

The Expedition 38 insignia was shared on Twitter by Mastracchio. It was designed with help by artist Blake Dumesnil.

hoorenz
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posted 11-14-2012 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great patch Blake!

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posted 11-14-2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely GREAT! Congratulations!

KSCartist
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posted 11-14-2012 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jorge and I worked with the crew for months on their patch and then were told they chose another artist. I was pretty bummed at the time. But now I feel much better. Blake this design is incredible! I tip my hat to you sir. The torch has been passed. I can't wait to add this patch to my collection.

hoorenz
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posted 11-14-2012 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part of the version Tim and Jorge worked on, was "recycled" for the logo for the Kosmocenter, the Russian version of Space Camp. And, what went missing there, found a good place in Expedition 37.

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posted 11-14-2012 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's true Erik but that was an early version of the 38 patch. I'm glad Kotov found a use for it. We worked on many designs for the crew since then.

We didn't succeed with this crew, but we've enjoyed a lot of success before and since with other NASA teams. I'll post those when they are released.

GoesTo11
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posted 11-14-2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beauty! Great work by Blake and everyone else involved.

Mike Dixon
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posted 11-14-2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not often I'll pass comments (positive or not) on patches, but this one I will ... reckon it's terrific.

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posted 11-14-2012 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice tribute to the 45th anniversary of Apollo 8 with the 'figure 8' on the right

MSS
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posted 11-14-2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is here a final version?

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posted 11-14-2012 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a refreshing and innovatory design you have produced, Blake. Your work is worthy of the highest plaudits. Thank you.

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posted 11-15-2012 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very modern and great looking patch! But Earth, Moon and Mars on the patch are more to commemorate where we went during the Apollo era and where we hope to go in the future. It is not real a symbol for Expedition 38 to the ISS, I feel.

lucspace
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posted 11-15-2012 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Apollo 8:
It is not real a symbol for Expedition 38 to the ISS, I feel.
The symbolism you describe perfectly shows where we are right now in manned spaceflight; considered that way, it is very well timed. And an impressive design that really wowed me. Makes me feel like an amateur too...

Blake, I hope we get to see many more of your works in embroidery on flight suits!

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posted 11-16-2012 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IconDesign29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to thank everyone very much for the kind words about the Expedition 38 design! I had a blast working on this one and everyone was thrilled with the results, across the board. This design is fully approved and we won't be seeing a repeat of what happened with Expedition 36 and 37.

As Luc insightfully mentioned, the crew and I felt like this was a great time to start looking forward to the future and how the ISS has become an amazing stepping stone for furthering long-duration spaceflight development.

As always, I greatly appreciate everyone's feedback and support and also look forward to what the future brings!

Jacques van Oene
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posted 11-16-2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IconDesign29:
This design is fully approved and we won't be seeing a repeat of what happened with Expedition 36 and 37.
Did the Russian cosmonauts see this design before it was approved by NASA (I believe Kotov is Expedition 38 commander)? So I do hope he likes it and that he has approved the design... if not (I'm afraid) there will be a repeat of 36 and 37...

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posted 11-16-2012 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IconDesign29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone has signed off on and approved this design.

No Expedition 36/37 repeats.

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posted 11-19-2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool patch. I noticed right off a couple similarities to the Expedition 36 patch. The planets/moon inside the numbers and the look of the solar panels. Just coincidence?

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posted 11-19-2012 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IconDesign29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the placement of the planets inside of the numbers in both this and the Expedition 36 design turned out to be a coincidence. I had completed this design prior to the Expedition 36 crew asking for the design revisions which included adding the planets so technically this was the first time I had used that technique. Of course, this was really more of a nod to a great design element of the past than anything else.

As for the solar arrays... that was more intentional.

Gilbert
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posted 11-20-2012 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice patch.

hoorenz
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posted 11-20-2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wakata in Japanese is indeed the final version.

J Blackburn
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posted 02-26-2013 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J Blackburn   Click Here to Email J Blackburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really liked the artwork for this patch and I think Blake did a fantastic job. However, I received a couple of the patches in the mail yesterday and was quite disappointed with their quality.

The colors are dull and the names are not neatly sewn. When I look at the names they appear fuzzy as if I was looking through someone else's eye glasses.

For a mission insignia that had great artwork the manufacturer cheated the artists talents on this one. Still yet the patch is nice and my hat goes off to Blake.

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posted 02-26-2013 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious, where did you buy them? Neither of my usual sources (AB Emblem, The Space Store) show Expedition 38 as available for purchase yet. (There's one on eBay but I don't recognize the seller.)

J Blackburn
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posted 02-26-2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J Blackburn   Click Here to Email J Blackburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't get me wrong, the patch is still a nice patch but in my opinion it is not up to the quality as previously produced AB Emblem patches.

For one, the patch is a little smaller than most making the names a smaller font size which could be contributing to the appearance of fuzzy lettering. If the letters had been bigger then I believe they would have had more detail. As with any computer graphics, in this case the artwork the colors are going to vary in brightness, dullness, etc. If the patch had been a little larger and the thread colors brighter I would had not been disappointed.

Sill yet I bought two, one for my display and one to be sewn onto a shirt. On a positive note the smaller size makes it ideal for sewing on a polo shirt.

johntosullivan
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posted 02-27-2013 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan   Click Here to Email johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a Malaysian knock off. They are all three inch instead of four inch and poor quality.

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posted 02-27-2013 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my 38 patch from Joe at Skyforce Patches. It has the typical made in the USA sticker on the reverse. Joe is an approved vendor for AB Emblem.

It is smaller and less impressive than I expected.

It is one of the best designs I've ever seen and I was hoping for a patch that matched the art.

J Blackburn
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posted 02-27-2013 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J Blackburn   Click Here to Email J Blackburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was my exact thought Tim. Mine are AB Emblem with the AB "Made in USA" sticker on the back. I expected a better looking patch based on the awesome artwork. Yes, Joe has them in stock at Skyforce Patches and yes they are AB Emblem.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-04-2013 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is AB Emblem's ISS Expedition 38 patch:

hoorenz
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posted 04-05-2013 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The above image is of a prototype. The production version has a very minor correction to Tyurin's name (Ю instead of separate I and O).

hoorenz
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posted 09-14-2013 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the version produced by the "center for operation of space ground-based infrastructure" (TsENKI), meant for local distribution in Russia. I think they did a very decent job! Unfortunately, I have no idea at this moment how to get these patches.

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posted 10-29-2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a photo with decal version of the patch at the far left column on the cabin wall.

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posted 10-29-2013 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like something went wrong cutting this decal...

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posted 11-08-2022 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A late follow up to this thread but I wanted to mention that a few years ago Rick Mastracchio was selling flown ISS-38 patches to the public on Facebook. The version he sold is the "prototype" version above. He was selling from a bundle that looked like the type of packaging seen in storage from the Official Flight Kit.

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