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garymilgrom
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posted 03-05-2013 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently acquired an unflown TMG glove of the type used early in the space shuttle program (thanks Rick). I generally like to leave artifacts in the open so they can be handled but this seemed to call for something else. I used an acrylic box with a mirror back to display the piece. It was hard to photograph with the mirror so I removed the cover for some of the photos.

With cover and mirror backing:

TMG3

Without cover:

TMG1

Patches inside display:

TMG2

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 03-05-2013 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb item very nicely displayed Gary. Glad I was able to "lend a hand"!

Would not have happened without the help of a certain Bostonian friend who had. "a hand in it" too.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-05-2013 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary, a very handsome display.

Out of curiosity, does your glove have an ILC label inside and if so, can you share the date of manufacture?

I ask because I also have a TMG layer glove, manufactured in 1985, which appears to be of different construction than yours — which may also have to do with its size.

The most obvious difference is the color of the palm (yellow versus orange).

GACspaceguy
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posted 03-05-2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! A great item and a great display. I have to hand it to you I am envious.

Charlie16
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posted 03-07-2013 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary very nice display!

328KF
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posted 03-07-2013 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great display of a nice item. Wasn't the EVA Systems patch designed for the Constellation program?

garymilgrom
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posted 03-08-2013 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry 328 I don't know the answer to your question.

Can anyone help me figure out the background of this glove? There are two labels inside. The first does not have a date leading me to think this may be a display or similar unused item from ILC. The like-new condition seems to agree with this.

Glove Label 1 sml

But further in almost at the fingers is a second label with a mfg. date of 9/79. Any help appreciated.

Glove Label 2 sml

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-08-2013 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 328KF:
Wasn't the EVA Systems patch designed for the Constellation program?
It was; the logo is specific to the Constellation spacesuit development effort and I believe was retired with the end of that program.

garymilgrom
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posted 03-08-2013 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooops! Thanks for the Constellation patch info guys, I guess I'll have to get a 5-star version of the other patch for the display.

328KF
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posted 03-08-2013 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One other question Gary... I recall seeing some photos of older shuttle EVA gloves that had the flap over the top of the hand with a strap underneath to attach a wristwatch. Does yours have this feature?

There are no photos of shuttle EV crewmen wearing watches, and these days the entire thing is choreographed from inside so there is no need. I was always curious if they did wear them on the early flights, just hidden under the thermal covering. Thanks.

garymilgrom
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posted 03-08-2013 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes this glove has a flap that could be used as you describe. Thanks for that info.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 03-08-2013 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Below the Kevlar palm of Gary's glove is a velcro secured "cover" that wraps around the cuff of the TMG.

Originally there were plans for an optional thermal mitten that was attached at the bottom of the wrist and could be folded back onto the lower arm when not in use and this "cover" would fold over it and keep it out of the way.

Later designs of the glove did away with the optional mitten and the TMG glove changed accordingly. This probably accounts for the differing construction when compared with Robert's later example.

joe bruce
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posted 03-08-2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joe bruce   Click Here to Email joe bruce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does your glove look like this on the back side? This is the back side of mine. The palm of mine is really beat up.

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crl848
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posted 03-11-2013 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crl848     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Gary, may I ask if this is a custom made or off the shelf box for your glove?

garymilgrom
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posted 03-11-2013 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joe: My glove does have the half oval "knuckle cover" like yours. You can just see it in the reflection of the top photo. However the velcro securing the larger wrist flap is different - I'll photograph it later.

crl: I purchased a stock acrylic case online. Click here to visit the website I used.

Gilbert
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posted 03-12-2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice artifact and display, Gary.

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