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MaelR
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posted 12-11-2013 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaelR   Click Here to Email MaelR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know what the difference is between Orlan space glove number: ГП-10КС-РАЗМЕР 2 and for example, ГП-10К-2-0220081?

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posted 12-11-2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DG27   Click Here to Email DG27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is what I remember. Regarding the glove marked "ГП-10КС-РАЗМЕР 2", the cyrillic letters "ГП" indicates it is a spacesuit glove. The glove is a model (or type) 10KC. The word "РАЗМЕР" is "size" in Russian so the glove is a size 2.

The other glove, "ГП-10К-2-0220081" is pretty much the same thing except the glove is a model or type 10K. (I'm not sure what the physical differences between the 10K and 10KC models are. Over the years I have photographesd a lot of labels but never took the time to decipher everyting.) The next number "-2" indicates the size and the following number is (I believe) the serial number, and may include the manufacturer date. Are there any specific date stampings on the glove?

Not a completely definitive answer, but I hope this helps.

Lou Chinal
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posted 12-14-2013 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may be wrong but I think the gloves were molded to the hand of each cosmonaut. They didn't have a size.

MaelR
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posted 02-20-2014 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaelR   Click Here to Email MaelR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually they have sizes.

It ranges from 1 to 3. There's another number inside, on the metal ring N20740752 ПРАВСЕ.

I managed to find similar numbered gloves on the internet (YouTube, 4:00), they are a part of Orlan-M suit. This is the only video/picture of similar numbered gloves.

James C
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posted 02-21-2014 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James C   Click Here to Email James C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm thinking about putting together a little database of known Orlan gloves to decipher the model sequence.

For instance, mine is a 2K, and has orange palm grip and green finger tips. I have seen another 10K, with green and green, etc.

MaelR
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posted 02-21-2014 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaelR   Click Here to Email MaelR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a very good idea James.

If you need any help just let me know. I've contacted Zvezda about those numbers, this is what they told me:

Thank you for your interest to our space equipment. This is to inform you that markings on the Orlan spacesuit pressure gloves contain private information.
So no progress here.

James C
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posted 02-22-2014 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James C   Click Here to Email James C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Started my little database with the one I have, plus examples from ISS EVA photos and previous auctions (from Google). I will e-mail it to you on Monday.

MaelR
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posted 02-22-2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaelR   Click Here to Email MaelR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I greatly appreciate that James.

Right now I'm trying to contact Russian space museums and ask them about those numbers. Keep your fingers crossed.

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posted 02-22-2014 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James C   Click Here to Email James C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
E-mailed you my work in progress list.

James C
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posted 03-01-2014 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James C   Click Here to Email James C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to MaeIR, the list I started has been well fleshed out.

Basically, we listed details about the gloves we own, plus the details of Orlan gloves that can be found on the internet. This gives a way to correlate model numbers and serial numbers and approximate age.

If anyone is interested in seeing the list e-mail me. If you would like your glove included send me the details.

We have 38 gloves on the list so far.

Table headings are:

  • Model
  • Size
  • Serial
  • Hand (L or R)
  • Tip grip colour
  • Palm grip colour
  • Condition
  • Age
  • Possible use
  • Source
  • Notes
  • Link to source

James C
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posted 04-05-2014 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James C   Click Here to Email James C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this glove on the net, it looks like it's on display at JSC?

Does anyone know if it's still there, and if so, can the serial number be read?

MaelR
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posted 05-01-2014 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaelR   Click Here to Email MaelR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you should call them or send them an email?

James C
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posted 05-11-2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James C   Click Here to Email James C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm UK based so I emailed them. No reply in a few weeks.

If it's still on display and anyone is visiting, I'd appreciate anyone who could scribble down the serial number...

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