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|RISPACE||I am wondering if anyone has any info on the possible repair and restoration of the Saturn 1B (SA-109) in the rocket garden at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Center. Is anything planned?|
I was there recently and it is in somewhat bad shape - birds living within, cracked paint, mold and mildew build up, etc. Reminds me of the days when the Saturn V was displayed outside the Vehicle Assembly Building.
I checked the article on Wikipedia, and it is SA-209, which was the standby that would have launched a notional Skylab 4 and later Apollo-Soyuz rescue CSM-119. It also would have launched the cancelled CSM mission to lift Skylab workshop's orbit until the Space Shuttle ready to fly. The article notes that "Due to severe corrosion, the first stage engines and Service Module were replaced with fabricated duplicates in 1993–1994."
So this would seem to be the only remaining (formerly) fully launch-ready Saturn IB.
|J.L||Not from 1993-94, but this photo shows the same Saturn 1B (SA-209) being fitted with mock engines before being shipped to Japan in 1978 for the Space Expo. |
|GACspaceguy||Here are photos I took in 2009: |
While peeling paint and mildew are ugly, it is the significant amount of exfoliation corrosion happening on the lower hat section stingers that have me concerned. The last time I was there I saw even more corrosion on some of the main fittings. I cannot even imagine what is going on top side, in places where water can pool after the rain.
I trust they will do something about it at some point and I hope it is not just a pressure wash and a coat of paint.
|Robert Pearlman||From what I understand, the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex's 10-year master plan, which includes the construction of the Space Shuttle Atlantis exhibit, the recently completed new entranceway into the complex, and the new Rocket Garden restaurant opposite the Rocket Garden, also includes work on the Rocket Garden itself.|
|SpaceKSCBlog||I've heard that some of the artifacts in the Rocket Garden actually belong to the Smithsonian, which would complicate matters as it would be their responsibility to fix them, not KSCVC.|
|Robert Pearlman||To the best of my knowledge, the rockets in the garden are NASA property and do not involve the Smithsonian.|
|SpaceKSCBlog||When the Mercury-Atlas was replaced last year by the replica, I was told the Smithsonian had recalled the original.|
|Robert Pearlman||Astronaut Tom Jones shared this photo on Facebook this week: |
The Saturn IB booster here at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex is newly refurbished and looks ready to carry an Apollo to orbit. Come visit!
|GACspaceguy||I trust it was reworked and not just painted. I hope to go to KSC shortly and have a look for myself.|
|tegwilym||I was there before Christmas this year. They had a crew out there painting some of the rockets in the rocket garden. They looked pretty good! |
|dabolton||What was in the shroud that held the lunar module on the Saturn V launches? Was it a mass simulator?|
|Robert Pearlman||On most Saturn IB flights, the shroud (known as the Spacecraft Launch Adapter, or SLA) was empty, serving as a "structural interstage between the instrument unit atop the S-IVB stage and the service module" (to quote the Apollo 7 press kit).|
On Apollo 5, the SLA surrounded the first lunar module to fly in space.
|Ronpur||And Apollo 5 had a nosecone atop the SLA and no CSM.|
ASTP had a docking module inside its SLA.
|contra||Took some photos during my last trips in October and again in December 2013. |
October 2013; construction fence visible
October 2013; close up of first stage
December 2013; construction fence gone
December 2013; construction fence gone
|garymilgrom||Anyone know what happened to the white room and the walkway leading to it?|
|xlsteve||Perhaps in Robert's apartment with the the ISS hatch and shuttle deck plates?|
|Robert Pearlman||I believe it is still where it has always been. During the Saturn IB restoration, the climb-in capsule was moved back to allow for the fencing, but then moved back into place afterwards. |
In the fourth photo above, the LUT arm and white room would be behind and to the left of the photographer (Stefan).
(I've already got a white room and access arm kindly stored for at the Rocket Park just outside Johnson Space Center.)
|sev8n||Looking at the satellite view on Goggle maps, it's still there. It looks like they have re-arranged things a bit.|
|Ronpur||I took quite a few close ups of the Saturn IB today. It looks very good. I wonder how long the paint will last. The Orion Escape Tower that hasn't been out there very long is very faded since I saw it in November! Florida sun and weather is harsh... just ask my car.|