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[i]COLLINS: I never did see the LM.
GORDON: ... The P22 on the next pass was to be at the landing site. Through most of the conversation, I wasn't really sure where it was. I had an update for the LM charts, giving the coordinates for what the ground at that time thought was the landing site of the LM, near head crater. The targeting was pretty close to the actual spot where the LM had landed, but on the second pass after landing, when P22 came up, I found Snowman and I was actually looking at the Surveyor crater. Lo and behold, right there on the northwest edge of that thing was a bright shiny spot, a long shadow, and it was the only shadow in the area that I saw and as I got closer, it may be my imagination, but I thought I could see details of the descent stage and the landing gear extending from it. As I approached overhead where the Surveyor crater was at the nadir, right in the center of that crater, and the dark shadow was one shiny bright spot that I knew had to be the Surveyor, this excited me quite a bit. I was pretty surprised that we were able to see that and I actually gave the coordinates on Surveyor back to the ground, which I thought was the LM landing site and it turned out to be exactly where they were. So once you know the general area, I should say pretty precisely the area in which they landed, anyone could find the LM itself in the sextant ...
ROOSA: One other area to include here would be my visual tracking pass on the LM. We changed the coordinates of the LM slightly. I received an update to NOUN 89 values. I also took the coordinates off my sight map. I bombed into the area. I had no trouble at all. I had really smoked over the Fra Mauro area and had certain lead-ins coming into it. I picked up Cone Crater and Triplet and had no trouble identifying the area. I was looking on my map at these coordinates, and they were wrong. They had the LM over on the other side of the Triplet. Then I saw the bright spot - the reflection of the LM and the shadow. There is no mistaking the LM when you see that long shadow coming out from it. I had a real good track on the LM. I don't remember how many marks I took, but I got a good track on it. Then I changed the coordinates on my site map and told Ron that I put the LM at different coordinates on the site map. The next day, between the two landmarks that were listed, I had a chance to look at the landing site again. This time the shadow in the LM was down, but I knew exactly where to look. I saw the Sun shining off the LM and also off the ALSEP package. I marked down the coordinates of the ALSEP and phoned those down to Ron. It looked to me like the ALSEP was right out there by this crater.
WORDEN: Next item is LM acquisition. After the P24, after the circularization maneuver, the next pass over the landing site was a LM acquisition pass. It was made on REV 15, and that all went very well. The pad was sent up, I went to the attitude, and there was no problem with any of that. Everything went nominally. As I came over the landing site, I saw the LM shadow very clearly, and once I had identified the shadow, then I could also see the LM in the sextant. I watched the LM until I was near nadir, until I was almost to TCA, and then I took out the visual map, the 1 to 25 000 scale, in the CSM Lunar Landmark Map Book, and marked the spot where I saw the LM.
MATTINGLY: ... We never did try to track the LM itself. I saw a glint of sunlight off of something bright. Sort of like the kind of reflection you'd see from a wave out over the ocean. One time when I was looking with the binoculars, at the landing area, I believe I saw the glint off of the LM or maybe the ALSEP. And, another time I saw a glint over on the flanks of Stone Mountain. Right after that, Hank said that was in fact where the Rover was. It was nothing I could identify or pinpoint, but it was a flash of sunlight reflected off of something that looked entirely unlike any other features that you see around the Moon ...[/i]
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