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[i]SCOTT: You ever have any problems?
IRWIN: No, I really didn't. I guess we had, as far as I was concerned, the worst possible problem as far as getting up on the first rung because the front strut had obviously not stroked. As far as I was concerned, the front pad was off the surface. As I initially came down and stepped on it, it was loose, and I wasn't aware of that and it tilted, pulling me back and I almost went over backwards.
SCOTT: On the first EVA?
IRWIN: Yes. So that was a surprise to me, and from then on it was a real struggle to get up to the first rung.
SCOTT: Was it really?
IRWIN: Yes. Invariably, I'd end up pulling myself up by the arms to get to the first rung, particularly if I was carrying a bag up. If I didn't have a bag, I could leap far enough to just barely get my feet on the first rung.
SCOTT: Did you have any trouble pulling yourself up?
IRWIN: No, it was just, you know, additional effort which probably raised the heart rate a little bit.
SCOTT: Well, I didn't have any problem getting up and I could get to the first rung with a leap with any bag, with a good spring.[/i] [/B][/QUOTE]
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