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T O P I C R E V I E WSy LiebergotI took these photos of what appears to be a very hefty boilerplate Apollo CSM, and Folks, I'm talking iron, here. The SM cylinder continues is under the flooring. I viewed it while touring the magnet school of my high school alma mater, Northeast High School in Philadelphia in the late '90s. I have yet to find someone that knows for what it was used. Any experts on the panel?Sy Liebergot"Apollo EECOM: Journey Of A Lifetime" www.apolloeecom.com [This message has been edited by collectSPACE Admin (edited November 06, 2004).]John CharlesSy,this looks like the other boilerplates still in the vicinity of JSC (across NASA Road 1 out the front gate, and at the boys' school) based on its fixtures. I will wager that it was built for post-Apollo 204 in-cabin fire testing. More details as I come across them.------------------John CharlesHouston, Texasnasamad Hi Sy and John, It looks like it was built to withstand fire, if there was ever a "boilerplate" that is it ! Just had a quick look through some paperwork and according to the (1968, post fire) CSM contact there were 2 boilerplates built for flammability tests. One was meant for the Manned Spacecraft Center (Serial no BP-1224-1) and one was meant for Downey (Serial no BP-1250-C). The Downey one was also meant to be used for Cabin Pressure Vent Valve tests, the one in your pictures Sy, has strange additions around the general areas where the vent valves were situated. Hope this helps....Adam http://www.adboo.com Ray KatzI'm posting here because I'm hoping Sy will be able to answer my question.What "fire suppression systems" were aboard Apollo 1? I've got the Emergency Egress test instructions for that flight and they mention "simulating" activating those systems as part of the test.What do you know about this? Thanks!Sy Liebergotre BP query: Hmm, I hadn't thought that this boilerplate would have been used for fire testing--looks/looked pretty clean to me. If memory serves me, there were crew couches inside.re fire suppression: How about this: "As part of the effort to alleviate fire hazard prior to liftoff and during initial flight, the command module cabin atmosphere was composed of 60% oxygen and 40% nitrogen. During this period the crew was isolated from the cabin by the suit circuit, which contained 100% oxygen. Shortly after liftoff, the cabin atmosphere was gradually enriched to pure oxygen at a pressure of 5 psi. · In spite of efforts to eliminate all flammable materials from the interior of the spacecraft cabin during flight, it was apparent that this could not be completely accomplished. For example, silicone rubber hoses, flight logs, food, tissues, and other materials would be exposed with in the cabin during portions of the mission. However, flammable materials would be outside their containers only when actually needed. Special fire extinguishers would be carried during flight. MSC's Engineering and Development (E&D) Directorate recommended that the Apollo CM be provided with a foam fire extinguisher. E&D also recommended that the LM be provided with a water nozzle for extinguishing open fires and that cabin decompression be used to combat fires behind panels. An aqueous gel (foam) composition fire extinguisher was considered most appropriate for use in the CM because hydrogen in the available water supply could intensify the fire, water spray could not reach fires behind panels."Hadn't thought about this for years and had to 'google' for a memory jog.Sy Liebergot"Apollo EECOM: Journey Of A Lifetime" www.apolloeecom.com spaceukBPCould it have been used for gas pressure tests?spaceukOther suggestions .was it used as a 'former' for producing parts moulds or even as a CNC tool 'master' ?PhillUK
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------------------John CharlesHouston, Texas
It looks like it was built to withstand fire, if there was ever a "boilerplate" that is it !
Just had a quick look through some paperwork and according to the (1968, post fire) CSM contact there were 2 boilerplates built for flammability tests. One was meant for the Manned Spacecraft Center (Serial no BP-1224-1) and one was meant for Downey (Serial no BP-1250-C). The Downey one was also meant to be used for Cabin Pressure Vent Valve tests, the one in your pictures Sy, has strange additions around the general areas where the vent valves were situated.
Hope this helps....Adam
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What "fire suppression systems" were aboard Apollo 1? I've got the Emergency Egress test instructions for that flight and they mention "simulating" activating those systems as part of the test.
What do you know about this? Thanks!
re fire suppression: How about this: "As part of the effort to alleviate fire hazard prior to liftoff and during initial flight, the command module cabin atmosphere was composed of 60% oxygen and 40% nitrogen. During this period the crew was isolated from the cabin by the suit circuit, which contained 100% oxygen. Shortly after liftoff, the cabin atmosphere was gradually enriched to pure oxygen at a pressure of 5 psi. · In spite of efforts to eliminate all flammable materials from the interior of the spacecraft cabin during flight, it was apparent that this could not be completely accomplished. For example, silicone rubber hoses, flight logs, food, tissues, and other materials would be exposed with in the cabin during portions of the mission. However, flammable materials would be outside their containers only when actually needed. Special fire extinguishers would be carried during flight. MSC's Engineering and Development (E&D) Directorate recommended that the Apollo CM be provided with a foam fire extinguisher. E&D also recommended that the LM be provided with a water nozzle for extinguishing open fires and that cabin decompression be used to combat fires behind panels. An aqueous gel (foam) composition fire extinguisher was considered most appropriate for use in the CM because hydrogen in the available water supply could intensify the fire, water spray could not reach fires behind panels."
Hadn't thought about this for years and had to 'google' for a memory jog.Sy Liebergot"Apollo EECOM: Journey Of A Lifetime" www.apolloeecom.com
Could it have been used for gas pressure tests?
was it used as a 'former' for producing parts moulds or even as a CNC tool 'master' ?
PhillUK
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